I've been looking for a new pump gun for quite a while. My local gun shop has a used 870 Police. It it's in excellent condition. It actually looks like it's been a safe queen. It is blued with a glossy wood stock. The barrel was about 18 inches with rifle sights. The bore looks perfect and there are a couple of scratches on the wood. I rarely see good 870s around let alone a Police. What do you think a reasonable price would be? They are asking $450 but they might budge a little because it's used.
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I'd think that about $265 plus shipping and transfer fee should do it. Or he's got Police Magnums with ghost ring sights for $365.
http://www.summitgunbroker.com/870_Mag_Riots.html
Yours was with rifle sights, these have a bead, but still the Magnums with ghost rings beat that one all to heck.
http://www.summitgunbroker.com/870_Mag_Riots.html
Yours was with rifle sights, these have a bead, but still the Magnums with ghost rings beat that one all to heck.
That's a much better price. But the Police I'm looking at has very nice wood, glossy almost as good as my 1187 premier's. It also has a very deep blued finish. Is $450 still high considering? Oh and I should ad that it is a magnum.
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Jubjub, I know what you mean. I've actually been looking for a Pardner Pump Protector and also keeping an eye out for a nice old 870 (none Express model). I would rather stay with the old Remy, I love them and want a dedicated home defense gun. I've actually never bought a used gun before. What do you guys think I should offer without getting laughed at?
jakemccoy
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I agree with Jubjub. There appears to be some features that appeal to you. There's probably always going to somebody out there willing to pay $450+ for the gun you describe. So, if that's what you want, then you're going to have to pay the price for it.
I personally would offer no more than $350 for the gun you described, but that's me and so I probably would never be able to get such a gun on the open market. The features you described don't appeal to me personally. For example, I can't care less if my 870P has nice wood. In fact, I'd prefer if my 870P doesn't have anything "nice" on it. I want my 870P to be parkerized, pressed wood with nicks and well-used (preferably by me but whatever). Now, my 870 Wingmaster is a gun that has nice blued steel and nice wood, and I like it like that.
I personally would offer no more than $350 for the gun you described, but that's me and so I probably would never be able to get such a gun on the open market. The features you described don't appeal to me personally. For example, I can't care less if my 870P has nice wood. In fact, I'd prefer if my 870P doesn't have anything "nice" on it. I want my 870P to be parkerized, pressed wood with nicks and well-used (preferably by me but whatever). Now, my 870 Wingmaster is a gun that has nice blued steel and nice wood, and I like it like that.
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Two of my police models are WingMasters. I would offer $350 and go from there. I was smitten by a police gun three years ago and paid what was then an outrageous price. Now it is considered a steal. Who can tell? If you love it and oil it, and shoot it, you got your money's worth.
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In that great condition and with a deep desire to own one, I think the price isn't too high. I would offer what you suggested and take it from there. I paid close to that for my Police in almost new condition with ghost ring sights and synthetic stock. I don't regret it at all. I looked a long time before I got it and I have looked a lot since for used ones and they are not around at all...except for beat-up examples. I priced a new one and realized I didn't pay too much at all for my area.
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Summit just got in a couple of batches of LE trade-ins, you might give them a look.
http://www.summitgunbroker.com/index.html
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http://www.summitgunbroker.com/index.html
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So I went in today to see if I could negotiate a better price. The owner wasn't there so the guy at the counter said he couldn't lower the price and to come back tomorrow when the owner returns. I did notice the that the receiver only said "870 Magnum" and the tag on the gun said "Police Magnum". Do all Police model 870s say "Police" on the receiver? If not, hoe do I make sure it is a Police model+
jakemccoy
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Get the serial number and call Remington at 800-243-9700, option 7.
The older police guns just said WingMaster. Between dates I am not sure of they just said 870 Magnum, later they said 870 Police Magnum. Check to see that the trigger and guard is metal. Next check the stock and fore-end is a police type setup. Then you can call in the serial number but IMO if the wood looks police the gun is a fake or it is a police most likely, not much in the business of faking them.
What would be the fair market value for this: Remington 870 police magnum, manufactured around 1990 with a polished blueing finish. The receiver is marked "870 Police magnum". 98% condition/never fired.
Im also looking for some background on the particular 1990 model. How many were issued to the depts.? Is it a more rare 870 police then others?
Is this extension a 2 shot or 3 shot?
Does the finish on the trigger gaurd look original?
Im asking because the seller is asking $700 for it and says its super "rare"
Thanks!!
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Im also looking for some background on the particular 1990 model. How many were issued to the depts.? Is it a more rare 870 police then others?
Is this extension a 2 shot or 3 shot?
Does the finish on the trigger gaurd look original?
Im asking because the seller is asking $700 for it and says its super "rare"
Thanks!!
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Fred Fuller
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Remington will build to order if enough units of a given configuration are ordered at one time. To me that looks like a Riot configuration (20" barrel, 3 shot extension). I'd be interested to know if it was a CYL bore barrel. The wood looks to me to be Wingmaster wood, the usual Police or Riot wood is a non-checkered stock and a grooved short or LE length fore-arm.
Remington stopped routinely turning out blued Police guns a few years back, from current indications they're all phosphate finished now. There are a few that turn up from time to time still, as 'new old stock' or LE turn-ins. Blued Police guns were pretty common not that long ago, though. I have one, manufactured in 1987 according to Remington (I checked the serial number), with the receiver marked Remington 870 Police Magnum. It has an 18" (not 18.5") ImpCyl bead sight barrel and a 2-shot magazine extension that protrudes half an inch beyond the muzzle, as is typical for that arrangement.
I got it from a fellow THR member about three years ago for $275 IIRC. It's in very good condition, both wood and metal. It has a chrome bolt and a blued FlexiTab lifter. It has an aluminum trigger plate, with a shinier finish on it than the gun in your pictures. It has sling swivel studs from the factory, and a black rubber open-V pattern recoil pad, typical of that time frame. And mine has the expected uncheckered stock and ribbed short forearm.
I haven't seen everything Remington ever built, by any means. And that might be a limited run special order shotgun, I don't know. but I have no use for collector pieces or collector attitudes, I'm interested in working guns that are shooters, not wallhangers that have to be cosseted and worried about- and paid three or four prices for. There used to be an old gun show saying that reflects my attitude- "Collector's item? Good- just put it in those big cans out back, and the collectors will be here in the morning to collect it."
In short, I don't know if it is what the would-be seller says it is or not. I don't really care, it would be a matter of curiosity to me, but certainly not anything I'd pay that price to get when good LE trade-in 870s are available for far less $$.
If you can read the serial number, or if the seller will supply it, you can call Remington and they will tell you what configuration that serial number was in when it left the factory...
fwiw,
lpl
Remington stopped routinely turning out blued Police guns a few years back, from current indications they're all phosphate finished now. There are a few that turn up from time to time still, as 'new old stock' or LE turn-ins. Blued Police guns were pretty common not that long ago, though. I have one, manufactured in 1987 according to Remington (I checked the serial number), with the receiver marked Remington 870 Police Magnum. It has an 18" (not 18.5") ImpCyl bead sight barrel and a 2-shot magazine extension that protrudes half an inch beyond the muzzle, as is typical for that arrangement.
I got it from a fellow THR member about three years ago for $275 IIRC. It's in very good condition, both wood and metal. It has a chrome bolt and a blued FlexiTab lifter. It has an aluminum trigger plate, with a shinier finish on it than the gun in your pictures. It has sling swivel studs from the factory, and a black rubber open-V pattern recoil pad, typical of that time frame. And mine has the expected uncheckered stock and ribbed short forearm.
I haven't seen everything Remington ever built, by any means. And that might be a limited run special order shotgun, I don't know. but I have no use for collector pieces or collector attitudes, I'm interested in working guns that are shooters, not wallhangers that have to be cosseted and worried about- and paid three or four prices for. There used to be an old gun show saying that reflects my attitude- "Collector's item? Good- just put it in those big cans out back, and the collectors will be here in the morning to collect it."
In short, I don't know if it is what the would-be seller says it is or not. I don't really care, it would be a matter of curiosity to me, but certainly not anything I'd pay that price to get when good LE trade-in 870s are available for far less $$.
If you can read the serial number, or if the seller will supply it, you can call Remington and they will tell you what configuration that serial number was in when it left the factory...
fwiw,
lpl
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Dasanii19, I would pay no more than $400 for that gun. That gun is nothing special to me. The extension is undesirable to me. I'd rather have no extension. I'd want a rifle sight or ghost ring sight for that barrel length. I'd rather have a shorter forearm grip, like on most 870P's. That would allow me to put a shell rack on the receiver if I so desired.
To me, these guns are just not collector's pieces, unless the gun was owned by someone famous or someone important to me. I look at that gun, and I imagine it used and nicked up after my first range session because that's how it's going to be one week after I buy it.
The fact that the gun is not NIB brings the price down like a car driving off the dealer's lot, for me anyway. He says it's not fired, but who knows really? Is there a reliable way to tell for sure? He could have done a good clean up. If a gun is truly never fired and in 98% condition, then I would expect a seller to market the gun as new, and I wouldn't have a problem with that. Even still, my max price would be $400 because it's not NIB from Remington. This particular seller probably wouldn't sell me the gun for $400, and that's OK with me.
To me, these guns are just not collector's pieces, unless the gun was owned by someone famous or someone important to me. I look at that gun, and I imagine it used and nicked up after my first range session because that's how it's going to be one week after I buy it.
The fact that the gun is not NIB brings the price down like a car driving off the dealer's lot, for me anyway. He says it's not fired, but who knows really? Is there a reliable way to tell for sure? He could have done a good clean up. If a gun is truly never fired and in 98% condition, then I would expect a seller to market the gun as new, and I wouldn't have a problem with that. Even still, my max price would be $400 because it's not NIB from Remington. This particular seller probably wouldn't sell me the gun for $400, and that's OK with me.
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You may have seen this, but Bud's has a few 870 Police style trade-ins. They look somewhat worn, and are under $300.
One is here: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=411537360
One is here: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=411537360
I passed on the one I was looking at. The seller wouldn't go below $450. I'm pretty skeptical that it was even a Police model since it wasn't stamped Police. It looked like an sporting style 870 that someone put a shorter barrel on. I figure I'll get a police trade in online or get an express with an 18 in barrel local. Heck, I can probably buy a normal express and also a short barrel an go double duty for less than $450.
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