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Using VV105 for 9MM 115gr RN

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by shaff1101, Jun 11, 2013.

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  1. shaff1101

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    I know that the VV105 is typically not used for 9mm, but I have seen a

    couple of loads using 130gr bullets calling for 7.2 gr of powder. Do you

    think that this would be a good start using 115gr bullets?
     
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    That powder is mainly intended for rifle calibers and magnum handgun calibers. It's going to be a poor choice for 9mm.
     
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    It's quick enough to work decent if you can get enough powder in the case. It is similar in burn rate to AA #9, but bulkier.

    I would have to study some data and take a guess as to a start charge, and it would be something for me to try, not to recommend, not knowing what it would do.

    Good luck finding data.
     
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    I would give it a "shot." I have used N105 with 147 Grn bullets. I seemed to have a little bit of unburnt/partially burnt powder when using an open bolt/blow back carbine. So, I would advise using magnum primers.
     
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    Thanks, I do see loads for 130 and 147 gr. Should I increase load size for lighter bullet? The 130 gr shows min load of 7 gr and max at 7.4 gr. Would it be OK to start with 7.4 with a 115 gr bullet?
     
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    Based on that data, I would be inclined to try 7.2, but I am guessing, and OAL makes a big difference as well.

    Be patient and I will try N105 in 9MM with 115 and 125 Gr bullets this weekend and report back. My guess is there will be incomplete burn. Be interesting to try.
     
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    I loaded up three each of Ranier 115 Gr RN & Berrys 124 Gr HBRN-TP bullets @ 1.130 and 1.150 OALs. The 124 Gr did not want to go any shorter due the powder compression.

    Now all I have to do is shoot them. :)

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    wow thanks for the trial run.
     
  10. Jim Watson

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    I loaded some 145 gr 9mm with N105 and it did ok.
    My main application for it was .357 Major; a bit faster powder than N110 and other full magnum powders.
     
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    I'm curious how Walkalong's chrono data will look. Any Quickload info anyone? I'm guessing that you can stuff 7.8 grains under the 115 bullet and still be at safe operating pressures at 1.155"
     
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    Probably, but I'm gonna start low. :)
     
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    Made it to the range today. 92 degrees and 54% humidity. Gun and rounds were ambient temperature when fired over the chrono set at 5 good paces.

    All rounds fired from a 5" S&W 1911 with a Bar-Sto barrel.

    115 Gr Ranier RN loaded to 1.130 OAL. (The bullet is an average .564 long)

    1st Shot - 1151 FPS
    2nd Shot - 1110 FPS
    3rd Shot - 1138 FPS

    124 Gr Berrys HBRN-TP loaded to 1.150 OAL. (The bullet is an average .616 long with a small hollow in the base)

    1st Shot - 1118 FPS
    2nd Shot - 1154 FPS
    3rd Shot - 1141 FPS

    Brass was a bit sooty, not bad, just not as clean as some loads. Primers all looked fine, and the ejection seemed normal. I did not notice any unburned powder, but there may have been some.
     
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    Brass Pics

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    That is awesome thanks.
     
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