UW Student Senate rejects memorial for Pappy Boyington

[engineer151515]

Jill Edwards.......
Ashley Miller......


Shame, shame, shame on you both.

You owe an apology to every US service veteran everywhere, both living and dead.

Thank goodness I know hundreds of young people do not share your repulsive viewpoints. It give me hope for the future.

May your future life's experiences teach you the folly of your opinion.

 

[CrazyIrishman]

Rich White Male Kills 26 Japanese Tourists

"Col. Gregory “Pappy” Boyington was a disturbed young aeronautical engineering student who gave up a promising career marching the Boeing picket lines to shoot down 26 Japanese sightseeing planes over the Pacific, killing everyone on board and traumatizing a plethora of innocent marine....."

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PLEASE.....tell ME that I didn't read what I think I just read!!!!

And then we have some thoughts, I mean some more drivel from the brainwashed idiots........

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Posted by: Che | February 13, 2006 at 08:35 AM

" I'm shaking my head so hard that my tinfoil hat just came off!

Need I remind everyone that Bu$sh 41 was also a war criminal in ww 2.( do you see this coming together) He and that boyington "man" killed many peacefull japanese people. I remember in my first collage class on history I was told that japan was pushed into war by ameriKKKa. we picked the war with them. they had no choice but to fight.

Japan was wanting to end the war we started on dec,8 1941. But a few days later, we just up and dropped a atomic bomb on them for no reason. FDR/Truman, being dems, did not want to do it but the military did it anyway.

I'm glad that I went to school to get the true history of ameriKKKa! "


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And yet another fine gem..........


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Posted by OmarTheTentMaker | February 13, 2006 at 10:00 AM

" And Germany never bombed Pearl Harbor, so what was FDR thinking getting us into that illegal and immoral war? And just because innocent Japanese freedom fighters misread their training maps on December 7, 1941 and accidentally bombed evil American battleships that AmeriKKKa was hiding there for a sneak attack on Japan is certainly no reason for war! If Neville Chamberlain were alive today I'm confident that's exactly what he would have said, too. "





I'm sooo pissed I can't think straight!! The disrespect and slander directed at our veterans and country is way past disgusting and offensive! Ignorant little @#$%^#^%$%&#%^#@^**&% !!!

I'm glad my son doesn't think like this!

I WILL be contacting COMRADES Edwards and Miller!

 

[hillbilly]

crazyirishman......get a dictionary.

Look up the following: "Satire"

hillbilly

 

[Manedwolf]

Whomever posted the pics--PLEASE refrain from posting any of the swimsuit pics! Seriously, I attended a major university and it nearly made me sick each day to have to try to learn amongst these spoiled, pot-smoking rich kids like Jill. While I worked 2 jobs, they partied it up with daddy's money. Do you think these "Senators" have ever held a job or had a difficult day in the real world in their miserable lives? These childredn aren't fit to wash Pappy's underwear! Just remember, if the S does hit the F, people like her will the first ones gone.

When I picture the man the statue was to be in honor of, I can barely imagine what it must have been like to slam a roaring radial-engined Corsair around under the hot South Pacific sun blazing through the canopy, trying to turn and outmaneuver someone or several someones who were doing their best to kill you. To fight from the cockpit of a machine with no radar, no over-the-horizon ordnance, just a basic gunsight and sheer ability of the pilot to put the other guy in their sights before the enemy got them in theirs.

And to do that successfully twenty...six...times. Each time knowing that one slip would be fatal. And after being shot down, to have endured a POW camp, and all the horror that no-one brought up in a civilized nation would ever expect that human beings could inflict upon them.

Compare that with brats sent to college by rich parents, whose only concerns are their next class and the latest on-campus gossip scandals. They CAN'T idenfity with real hardship and real struggle.

So they can't understand what a real hero is.

 

[Nightfall]

It never ceases to amaze me that people like these students can lay claim to “higher learning” and still spout $#@& like this.

Just because scumbag leftists won’t remember our heroes, doesn’t mean the rest of us will forget. Statue or no, I for one will never forget the brave men and women who sacrificed so that we can be where we are, an independent nation, instead of where we would be, the crushed subject of foreign tyrants.

 

[Moondoggie]

I served on recruiting duty as an Officer Recruiter in Seattle 76-78 in the Marines. Went to UW many times...always an adventure. Frequently got nasty comments directed toward us by faculty AND students. Green USMC sedan was a favorite tgt...we used to carry TWO spare tires in the trunk.

I also got to meet Pappy several times at "Francisco's" (restaurant) down by the Seattle Center. Dick Francisco was a Korean War Marine Corps fighter pilot, and the bar in his place was a Marine "Hangout"...lots of Marine memorabilia adorned the overhead and bulkheads.

Pappy once said to me "Randy, if you recruit Officers down at the UW, you deserve a medal more than I do!" He knew what the UW had become, and he didn't think much of it. I don't think it would bother him in the least for the UW to decide that he didn't meet their standards. He was a really good guy, despite his problems. I'm sure he'd have quite a few comments that would never get past Art's Grammaw.

"Rich, white guy"...that's a hoot! If Pappy wasn't part Native American, then he had the deepest permanent suntan I ever saw!

What troubles me now as much as it did then is the absolute terms/venom that these leftists use when they go out of their way to attack folks that they disagree with. Liberals have no respect for democracy or the rights of others.

 

[Hacker15E]

I'm a UW grad, as well as a USAF officer and fighter pilot.

Personally, I don't see what all the pi$$-and-vinegar is all about. Boyington is what he is, regardless of if they want to recommend a memorial to him at the UW or not. He probably wouldn't want all of this BS on his accord, either.

I say...whatever. Wasted effort to get all riled up about this.

 

[Hockeydude]

Wow, after leaving the USSR I thought there wouldn't be any more Lenin statues.

 

[Geno]

Some Students Have too High an Opinion of their Intelligence

As a full-time college professor, instructing graduate level research, I have seen all too many students who are just arrogant. Heck, most of the arrogant ones can't even articulate an argument--they think it means to quarrel.

Student government is fine, but it should have LIMITED power. Colleges and universities are to be run, day-to-day, by the full-time, tenure-track professors, not by some snot-nosed punk who has an over-inflated opinion of their menial intelligence. The problem is that many, if not most, professors are just as stupid as this student government. They "learn" it somewhere!

We need to bring back the great equalizer, and this time make it EQUAL! Draft all "Americans" to serve their country for 1 or 2 years. Once they crawl through the mud for 3 months, they will have developed respect for those who dawn USA military uniforms--NO EXCEPTIONS, not even for the rich or the politicians' brats. EVERYONE should serve! For certain, by the end of 1 or 2 years, they will be humbled.

Not serving in the military is my ONE and ONLY regret in life! It would have done me a world of good! :banghead:

Doc2005

 

[No_Brakes23]

Draft all "Americans" to serve their country for 1 or 2 years. Once they crawl through the mud for 3 months, they will have developed respect for those who dawn USA military uniforms--NO EXCEPTIONS, not even for the rich or the politicians' brats. EVERYONE should serve! For certain, by the end of 1 or 2 years, they will be humbled.

I can't possibly tell you how many servicemembers I have met who have no respect for their service or anyone else's. I'll not have anyone conscripted to extort their respect. I'll either have their respect, or not, and be thankful that the Marine beside is me there because he volunteered.

 

[c_yeager]

The UW continues its downward slide into idiocy. It is still possible to obtain a great education there and come out as a perfectly reasonable adult, that is however not a prerequisite for graduation and they take real pride in producing completely irrelevant wastes of skin. I take solace in the fact that more and more of these graduates are from out of state and return home after the complete their education, regrettably some of them stick around to gum up the works around here too.

 

[gometika]

Looks like among the first human wave to go into battle in the next great war would be comprised of the leftist draftees from the UW. This is good, it'll give them a taste of war and hopefully jar their peanuts for brain to realize the sacrifices and horrors that our gallant men and women had to endure just so these leftists could mouth their shortsighted views. Ingrates!

 

[Kodiaz]

There is a book on "Pappy" and his "Black Sheep" Walmart was selling it. It's a disgrace that a bunch of clowns who have never known any hardship to deny this man a place of honor in his home state.


If this wasn't true it would be to ridiculous to be fiction.

 

[longeyes]

I'm a UW grad, as well as a USAF officer and fighter pilot.

Personally, I don't see what all the pi$$-and-vinegar is all about. Boyington is what he is, regardless of if they want to recommend a memorial to him at the UW or not. He probably wouldn't want all of this BS on his accord, either.

I say...whatever. Wasted effort to get all riled up about this.

A society is what it values. A society is who leads.

These are the future leaders of America? Jill and Ashley?

It only takes one generation to lose a Republic, and we are on the verge.

 

[longeyes]

Student senator Jill Edwards, according to minutes of the student government's meeting last week, said she "didn't believe a member of the Marine Corps was an example of the sort of person UW wanted to produce."

Ashley Miller, another senator, argued "many monuments at UW already commemorate rich white men."

Senate member Karl Smith amended the resolution to eliminate a clause that said Boyington "was credited with destroying 26 enemy aircraft, tying the record for most aircraft destroyed by a pilot in American Uniform," for which he was awarded the Navy Cross.

Smith, according to the minutes, said "the resolution should commend Colonel Boyington's service, not his killing of others."

One other thing...

Forty years into the Not-So-Great Society this is what we've come to.

Let me be blunt: There are too many "Jills" and "Ashleys"--those were the two quoted in the story--running things today on campuses. That's my impression. The women step forward and the guys just go along. They have been told that women know better and do better, and they've also been told to keep quiet and acquiece. So they do. Was there not one male in the academic Senate at U of W who stood up and read these women the riot act and educated them about heroism or patriotism or risk-taking? ONE?

Maybe it was the "Pappy" nickname that got the hormones roiling?

 

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

I think I read "Baa Baa Black Sheep" for the first time when I was about 9 or 10 years old. The first time I tried to check it out of the local library, they wouldn't let me have it, the literature was considered to be too mature.

Well, it does have some "mature" material -- his postwar downslide into alcoholism, for instance. And his spat with Chennault.

Those who believe their heroes to be ten feet tall and invincible might find it disturbing.

- NF

 

[Father Knows Best]

Let me be blunt: There are too many "Jills" and "Ashleys"--those were the two quoted in the story--running things today on campuses. That's my impression. The women step forward and the guys just go along. They have been told that women know better and do better, and they've also been told to keep quiet and acquiece. So they do. Was there not one male in the academic Senate at U of W who stood up and read these women the riot act and educated them about heroism or patriotism or risk-taking? ONE?

I disagree with your suggestion that this has anything to do with the sex of the people involved. I was a college student not too long ago (1987-94), and at a campus that is also notoriously liberal (The University of Michigan at Ann Arbor). The loudest and most obnoxious liberal pantywaists were just as likely to be men as women. And there were loud and obnoxious female conservative nutjobs, too. Heck, our world today includes conservative heroines like Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter.

College campuses tend to be extremely liberal, and student government tends to attract the most liberal fringes of an already liberal population. The conservative students all have more important things to do.

 

[CZ 75 BD]

Boyington Memorial Scholarship

Brother Neal Boortz has proposed on his program a memorial scholarship to UW for Marines or children of Marines killed in service. He has pledged the inital $5000, and a caller yesterday indicated he was sure he could bring in at least another $10,000 in pledges after his unit reunion this spring. Mr. Boortz intends to honor Pappy as well as his own Pa who was a Marine flyer in WW2, Korea, and Viet Nam.

http://boortz.com

 

[Ziryo]

Well these young people remind me of the San Francisco city board. There was one of the board people on Hannity and Colmes tonight to discuss why the city board voted 8 to 3 to not allow the IOWA battleship to become a memorial there. The guy went on and on about a ship with GUNS on it and he finally blurted out that the board did not believe that the USA should have a military at all. None. Colmes was even upset. The guy said that is the world San Francisco supports. It may be a world 1000 years from now but they plan to lead the way. I say put the ship somewhere else. They want to make a lefty museum out of it if they keep it. A museum to conflict resolution and such nonsense.

So that's what I caught part of at the Navy recruiting office. It was pretty funny stuff.

 

[antsi]

When I picture the man the statue was to be in honor of, I can barely imagine what it must have been like to slam a roaring radial-engined Corsair around under the hot South Pacific sun blazing through the canopy, trying to turn and outmaneuver someone or several someones who were doing their best to kill you. To fight from the cockpit of a machine with no radar, no over-the-horizon ordnance, just a basic gunsight and sheer ability of the pilot to put the other guy in their sights before the enemy got them in theirs.

And to do that successfully twenty...six...times. Each time knowing that one slip would be fatal. And after being shot down, to have endured a POW camp, and all the horror that no-one brought up in a civilized nation would ever expect that human beings could inflict upon them.

Not to mention, simply living and surviving in the South Pacific under WWII conditions. This was not tropical paradises and pina coladas here - those guys had to deal with jungle rot, dengue fever, malaria, and dysentery in addition to a fanatical enemy trying to kill you 24/7. To live under those conditions and then go up and do something as physically and mentally demanding as a fighter pilot every day is an amazing feat of endurance and fortitude in itself.

 

[cracked butt]

I wouldn't get too worked up about it. University students are in an isolated womb-like environment where they are protected from the comnsequences of what they say. Its only a matter of time before they leave the University and find out that things they do or sday have a tendancy to snap back at them.

Stupidity hurts in the real world.

 

[Hacker15E]

A society is what it values. A society is who leads.

These are the future leaders of America? Jill and Ashley?

It only takes one generation to lose a Republic, and we are on the verge.

For every idiot like her, there's someone like me. Again, I'm a product of the UW (1995 grad), and I'd like to think future leader (at a minimum just plain old good American).

My mind wasn't poisoned by some evil moonbat institution there in Seattle...I graduated from the same college (in a liberal arts major, no less!) and I don't seem to be having any problems handling a 11+ year military career and flying combat missions over Iraq and Afghanistan...

 

[longeyes]

Not to mention, simply living and surviving in the South Pacific under WWII conditions. This was not tropical paradises and pina coladas here - those guys had to deal with jungle rot, dengue fever, malaria, and dysentery in addition to a fanatical enemy trying to kill you 24/7. To live under those conditions and then go up and do something as physically and mentally demanding as a fighter pilot every day is an amazing feat of endurance and fortitude in itself.

Hey, you make it sound harder than going to Gender Studies classes at the U of W! That can't be right.

 

[longeyes]

For every idiot like her, there's someone like me. Again, I'm a product of the UW (1995 grad), and I'd like to think future leader (at a minimum just plain old good American).

My mind wasn't poisoned by some evil moonbat institution there in Seattle...I graduated from the same college (in a liberal arts major, no less!) and I don't seem to be having any problems handling a 11+ year military career and flying combat missions over Iraq and Afghanistan...

I'd like to believe that. I would. I'd like to believe that the numbers even out.

But I don't. You're a rare breed, and I hope not, as it appears, an endangered species.

 

[carebear]

Not to mention, simply living and surviving in the South Pacific under WWII conditions. This was not tropical paradises and pina coladas here - those guys had to deal with jungle rot, dengue fever, malaria, and dysentery in addition to a fanatical enemy trying to kill you 24/7. To live under those conditions and then go up and do something as physically and mentally demanding as a fighter pilot every day is an amazing feat of endurance and fortitude in itself.

Hey, you make it sound harder than going to Gender Studies classes at the U of W! That can't be right.

Oh, I don't know. Given the choice I'd take the dysentary and jungle rot.