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VA Open Carry

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Aaryq, Sep 21, 2008.

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  1. Aaryq

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    Howdy, folks,
    Open carry in Norther VA...Where can and can't I? I'm not a VA citizen. Does that affect it? I'm in Northern VA? Woodbridge, Dale City, Fredricksburg, Manassas and Occoquan would be the places most often. I know nothing about the area and don't have reciprocity to have a CCW. HELP ME PLEASE!

    **ETA**
    There has been at least 1 person shot in the neighborhood I'm in per day. My Brother-in-Law is a firefighter and we hear his scanner and we get at least 1 person shot within 5 blocks so far. I really need to know my options. Help.

    **ETAA**
    Can I OC with a round in the pipe or do I have to keep it unloaded with a mag on my body somewhere else?
     
  2. nalioth

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    I'm not a Virginian, but I'd expect the state law to cover anyone while they were there.

    We don't have different laws here in Texas for residents of other states.
     
  3. bnkrazy

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    opencarry.org will be your friend. Basically, you can go more places OCing than CCWing in VA.

    Places to avoid are the obvious, schools, federal buildings, etc. I do not believe there are any restrictions regarding being a citizen or not.

    The folks at opencarry.org in the VA section should be of great help to you.
     
  4. VARifleman

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    Open carry any rifle or pistol that has mags 20 rounds or smaller, and does not have a threaded muzzle. Shotgun mags are 7 or smaller if I recall correctly, but check on that if it applies to you. I do not know if Saiga shotguns are banned under that particular law. Only the mags in the gun count, have whatever you want on your belt.

    Off limits...

    Dulles and National airport buildings. Parking lots, kiss and ride, ok though.
    K-12 schools. Don't go on their property even.
    Courthouses
    The Jail section of a police station
    Federal property
    Posted as weapons banned, this includes VCU. Trespass charge
    Churches. 100 dollar fine.

    It's only CCW that's banned in places that serve alcohol.
     
  5. Duke Junior

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    You can OC anywhere in VA except schools, courthouses, churches, air port terminals, federal property, national parks, and posted private property.
     
  7. MAKster

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    What about on the Metro subway? Since it's a federal-state transportation authority, do they have separate rules?
     
  8. zoom6zoom

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    You don't need to be a VA resident to OC. I OC in the areas you listed on a daily basis. To RNB65's list, add state parks (CC OK, OC not). I know several folks who have OC'd on Metro. Caveats - don't get off at Pentagon or forget to get off before the train enters DC. You'll find in depth discussion of much of this over at the Virginia forum on opencarry.org
     
  9. MJRW

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    Where the hell are you that this is happening so I can be certain to stay far away from there?
     
  10. MAKster

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    I am very familiar with Prince William County, VA and the OP's concern about crime is way overblown. The crime rate in Northern Virginia is very low considering the population. In Prince William County, which has approx. 400,000 residents there were 7 murders in 2007. The crime rate is actually dropping.
     
  11. Mr. James

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    Good advice thus far. I'm with MAKster. I live in western Fairfax, not far from Manassas battlefield. PW County is not the war zone depicted in the original post.

    Yes, you can carry with one in the pipe. I do all the time.
     
  12. VARifleman

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    A woman was just abducted from Springfield Mall and killed. Crime may be low, but it is still a reality.
     
  13. Beatnik

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    I had to double-take on the church thing...
    It is as I remember it - you can't take a dangerous weapon to a place of religious worship while a meeting is being held for religious purposes, without "good and sufficient reason".

    A couple points -

    First, this specifically mentions religious meetings. Churches regularly host AA meetings, ESL classes, soup kitchens, etc. So it's not as cut-and-dry as so far suggested.

    Second, I'm in the crowd that thinks Jeanne Assam put a new spin on what "good and sufficient reason" means. In any case, if you work something out with the PTB at the church, you probably have good and sufficient reason.

    That said, I'm pretty sure neither idea has been tested in courts, either.
     
  14. JJNA

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    Did I get this right? One can open carry with a rifle, not just a handgun?

    So I can open carry with a Mini-14 (20 round mag, no threaded muzzle, fixed stock)?
     
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    Good question.I'm trying to find the answer since I take it once in a while.
     
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    Metro follows whatever the gun laws are of the state you are in (DC/MD/VA). You can carry on the bus/train in VA. One exception: you have to cross federal property (when you actually enter/exit the station) at the Pentagon and Arlington Cemetery stops on the rail line. Just be careful you don't accidentally stay on to long and end up in MD or DC.

    Here is the announcement from WMATA:
    http://www.virginia1774.org/METROLetter.jpg
     
  17. VARifleman

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    No, you can open carry a handgun or a rifle (or a shotgun, but that's a 7 or less magazine), but the same restrictions apply if you're going to be in the urban areas. There's a list around here of what counts, but most of northern VA counts, as well as richmond and around norfolk. I would find out what counts and what doesn't before I would open carry something that has a 21+ round mag or a threaded muzzle. I have also never tried to open carry my rifle, I'd imagine that it would be a little different in reaction than the open carrying of a handgun, but you never know until you try it. I do have 20 round mags for this purpose though...
     
  18. Dgreno

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    The northern VA areas are typically gun un-friendly. Open carrying in those areas is legal, but it definitely will freak people out and could get police attention. Carrying with one in the chamber is not restricted either. Are you in those areas on business?
    Your location says you are moving to NC, If you get a NC permit, you can ccw in VA, just an fyi.

    ETA, just so you know, I spent the first 21 years of my life in Richmond. I also still have a VA CCW permit.
     
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    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-287.4

     
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    Thank you all for the answers.
     
  21. VARifleman

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    Northern VA has actually become much less of a problem for open carriers than other parts of the state...(I'm looking at YOU Norfolk!)...because of all of the media attention initially when the open carry movement started about 4 years ago...at a Starbucks of all places. Now many of us are more comfortable open carrying in Fairfax than other parts of the state.
     
  22. JJNA

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    So, if I read this correctly, a person with Virginia CCW permit CAN open carry an auto-loading rifle.

    Even those without a CCW permit CAN carry a rifle, so long as the rifle 1) has a magazine that hold no more than 20 rounds 2) does not have a threaded barrel to accomodate a suppressor and 3) does not have a folding stock.

    Did I read that correctly?
     
  23. VARifleman

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    That seems to be correct. I have never tried it, nor do I know anyone who has, so I don't know what it would be like. If you do, make sure it's on a sling in a proper manner and have a voice recorder to record any possible problems.
     
  24. JJNA

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    A base model Mini-14 with either the factory 10-rounder or the "military/police-only" 20-rounder would fit the bill, too, no?
     
  25. W.E.G.

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    If you open-carry a rifle anywhere other than an area where hunting is the primary recreational activity, PM me before you do it. I want to get the video.
     
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