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I watched what the shooting league guys buy for their PPC revolver competition. Magazines and advertising aside, this is my way of seeing what holds up for overall endurance and competitive accuracy in the real world.

None of the guys shoot Rugers or Taurus'. They all shoot Smith & Wesson in the PPC leagues where I live. You might see an occasional Colt, or Dan Wesson on the line, but S&W clearly dominates the field like Leupold does to hunting scopes.

I would pick any S&W .38 or .357 that best fits your size hand, in a 4-6" barrel.

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You awnsered your own question . go with the ruger gp. I have two gp's. It fits everything you asked of it.
 
The S&W 619 is a fixed sight - the 620 has an adjustable sight. Both are .357 Magnum seven-shot L-frames. The 67 you mentioned comes with an Uncle Mike's squared combat grip set, as does the 619, a great deal more comfortable to me than the usual open back Hogue rubber grips on the 620, 686, etc. The 67 will digest a lifelong diet of +P .38's - and why get a .357M if you won't ever need it. The fixed sight blued version, the infamous M&P 10, is still a viable choice - and a few bucks less, too.

About QC.... every Ruger I have bought new has been a 'work in progress', my new Redhawk even having to spend a month back in NH. My S&W's, and I have bought more new ones than Rugers, have had one fault - and that could be the result of 'meddling' somewhere in the retail 'chain' before I bought it. S&W's will break in to a very good trigger - better than a tweaked GP-100/Super Redhawk. The GP-100 is a bit heavier - and full lugged. It has to be heavier - it is made up of cast components, the S&W is forged and heat treated. I have not had a good experience with Taurus - yet. Rossi's are inexpensive... Buy a S&W or Ruger.

Stainz
 
Good choice on the Ruger.And as BergO1 stated unless you are ready for some heavyduty cleaning of the chambers don't shoot .38 spl. in it.Crud will build up to were you can't chamber the longer .357 round.
 
Having owned and/or used most of the revolvers on your list, I would also favor the Ruger GP-100. Besides the reasons expressed by others, this revolver is designed to be owner-serviced. In many cases repairs or modifications can be made without the services of a professional gunsmith. I presume that you or a dealer would be allowed to mail order parts from the United States. That said, this revolver is built like a tank, and has an excellent reputation for not breaking down. The only objection I would see is a minor one - it's a bit heavy to carry around, especially if it is concealed. But this may not be an issue in you're situation.
 
When you compare the two, a 4" six shot 686 and a 4" GP-100, the Ruger looks bigger. It's the fullness of that lug... they are the same length. And, the GP-100 weighs in at an ounce more - 41 vs 40 oz. Keep in mind that, as I said before, the Ruger uses cast components, while the older design S&W still employs forged/treated components. I would also look at the 620, the adjustable sight version of the 619 you mentioned. They are the replacements for the 66 models, which have been dropped. They share the 66's partial lug - an aesthetic feature I appreciate, but it also makes for a more easily pointed revolver. With the life of .38 LRN ammo you suggested, any of the listed revolvers would be fine. A 67, or it's fixed sight brethren 64 or 10, would be perfect.

About .38 Specials in a .357 Magnum - they work quite well. Their residue can be easily cleaned - just use a proper gun cleaning solvent and allow time for it to penetrate. A proper bronze bore and cylinder brush would be perfect. As to dissassembly, the most dangerous component in a revolver is a compressed helical spring - like the hammer spring in a GP-100/SRH - and, to a much lessor extent, the trigger return spring in an S&W. While removing the grip and hammer spring & strut is easy in the Ruger, that trigger group can be a bear. Removing the cylinder and yoke from a S&W requires removal of only the front sideplate screw, leaving the cylinder in your hand for detailed cleaning. Removal of the sideplate is easy, should you need to get at the lockwork - and the leaf style hammer spring is pre-loaded by a strain screw, very safe and easy to change. Whichever one you buy, please use the appropriate sized hollow ground screwdriver/bits when removing/replacing screws.

Since they are a personal choice, feel assured that whether you get a GP-100 or a 686 - or the 64/67/619/620, I'll predict you'll find your choice is perfectly fine for .38 plinking... and more! Best of luck.

Stainz
 
I'd get the Ruger. The smiths are nice, but since you are paying a premium, save a bit on the Ruger. The trigger sucks on it though, but so do the others.
 
When I was searching for my first revolver I also wanted a solid, mid-frame gun to be used mostly with .38 specials. I originally wanted a .357 magnum, considering it was backwards compatable, but realized that when the time came for a magnum I'd want a frame dedicated for it.

I eventually chose a model 67 (purchased off gunbroker) after handling a couple Rugers at the pawn shop. The Smith is a smoother gun, and after sending it back to S&W for a tune-up I'm even more pleased.

I appreciate the robustness of the Ruger and will consider one when I want a magnum gun, but I rarely have a chance to shoot anything at all and there's only money to be wasted until I get better.

Here's an awkward picture of my gun. I simply can't imagine ever outgrowing a revolver like this.

 
I am a big-time ruger fan, but I also have really come to love Taurus so I don't think you can go wrong either way, though the Taurus offerings are generally a bit less expensive, and I personally prefer the Taurus matte finish.
 
Stainz,

Just out of curiousity, are you the unluckiest guy, ever? I am certainly not trying to slam you or anything like that, but I have yet to have a bad experience with either a Ruger or a Taurus, in any instance. Matter of fact, I have yet to have anything that I would label as a bad experience with any handgun, although I have certainly had minor issues with some. The only truly bad experience I have ever had with a gun was a Browing BP2000 automatic shotgun, which I could hit the broadside of a barn with only if I took my time and aimed carefully from a bench from a range of about 4 feet. I actually am curious as to what your experiences were!
 
+1 on Ruger GP-100.

My experience has been good out of the box.

1 GP-100 .357, 6" bought new
2 GP-100 .357, 4" (sold one to a friend) 1 bought new the other used.
1 Redhawk .44, 7.5" bought used

All good to go with never a problem.
 
This type of question seems to come up every couple of months. There is no right answer only what is the best option for your intended purposes. All the guns you mentioned are worth considering. Everyone who has posted a reponse brought up good points you should consider.

I can not comment on the other guns, since I have no experience with Taurus, Rossi and limited experience with S&W revolvers. I only have held a few 686s and 629s but never shot them. My friends S&W's that I have handled where well used older models. They seem to be holding up very well. THey all had excellent triggers. But, that is not the only consideration when buying a new gun. You should consider all aspect of the firearms you are considering.

The only gun on your list I have had experience with was a GP-100 6" SS that unfortunantly meet an untimely demise. Before the accident, I was happy with the gun, it was solidly built, well designed, it was very accuracte in SA, and easy to maintain do to the modern design, though a little utilitarian in looks. The gun was easily to dissasymble, but I could never remember how to properly assemble it. When it was new it did have a lousy, gritty DA trigger that became slightly better with some use. The SA was good from the start. The Wolff springs helped a little with the DA, I was able to get it down to 8lbs, and the single was at about 1.5 lbs. But, grittyness never went away, and with the reduced trigger return spring caused the trigger not to fully return, I then had to push the trigger forward before firing. I replaced the factory grip with a more confortable Hogue that fit my hands better. I replaced the factory rear sight with a Millet target model.

Overall I liked the GP-100. It really is a good gun when the price is considered. The 6" model had great balace. It does have some quirks, like the trigger, that can be addressed. But Since I now have to start over again with a new gun, I am leaning towards a used S&W 6" 686 since I like the look over the Ruger's.
 
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