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Vandals cut Minutemen's border fence

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Desertdog, Jun 16, 2006.

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  1. Desertdog

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    Vandals my butt. My reasons I say they weren't vandals is because the would have to go way out of their way to get to it.
    To me, they are trying to sabotage the fence project.:cuss:

    Vandals cut Minutemen's border fence
    http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=5039295

    It's been less than a month since Minutemen volunteers began building a 10-mile border fence along the Arizona-Mexico border, but already it's been vandalized.
    Carmen Mercer, with the Minutemen, says "I'm very upset. I'm really angry."

    She goes on to say, "It took a lot of work from many volunteers and a lot of devotion and a lot of commitment over the Memorial Day weekend to get this far."

    It's believed the fence was cut early Tuesday morning.

    Since then, Minutemen volunteers have been standing watch, making sure nobody else crosses over and destroys any more of their fence.

    Mercer says, "I'm assuming it's probably the illegal aliens who are trying to, probably, weaken us, but it's not going to work.

    The Minutemen plan to fix the fence sometime next week.
     
  2. Biker

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    Well, I guess that it's time for a 'Cut our fence we and shoot your water tank' program. Seems fair to me.

    Biker
     
  3. Charles S

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    I agree.

    Charles
     
  4. AJAX22

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    Trespassing with intent to destroy private property is grounds for the use of deadly force in that neck of the country isn't it?

    If they can't use force to prevent the destruction of property, what does it matter that they see the people doing it.

    The fence could easily be torn down with a 4x4 and a chunk of heavy chain, the only real deterent is the guard who patrolls the line.

    Shooting the barrels is a nicer solution than I would have done, Table salt is cheaper than most bullets.
     
  5. GTSteve03

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    This is a trap being orchestrated by someone higher up than a group of illegals.

    They're planning on a violent response from the Minutemen and the second that happens they'll have the Minutemen carted off to one of those brand spankin' new "detention centers" just build by Halliburton from illegal labor profit. :barf:
     
  6. Charles S

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    Why gee....I was taking the water jugs home to refill them. We have got to keep clean water in the jugs.

    Charles
     
  7. Battler

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    Anyone involved with this border mess need to think really carefull about what he's doing.

    Prevailing policy (note - not law - POLICY) of both countries is for people to keep crossing the border. The forces pushing it are doing it (at every level) for economic gain, minutemen types are not. Pros vs. amateurs.

    And the amateurs' actions have legal repercussions against governments with whom they're unpopular. The "pros" can do their worst and flee back to friendly territory.

    I heard tell of the anti-minutemen types in the US starting to stalk the minutemen's homes.

    Everybody - be careful, stay legal and outta trouble.
     
  8. longeyes

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    This is how wars start. With a few ugly little skirmishes that keep escalating.

    If it's bogies "on our side" who are behind this and the ultimate agenda is to neutralize the troublesome Minutemen I advise them to think again. I hear seismic tremors in this Republic.
     
  9. PinnedAndRecessed

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    Deleted in the interest of civility.
     
  10. Cosmoline

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    No surprise there. A wall and minefield would be needed. Now that GW has announced amnesty plans, it's Katie bar the door. Everyone and their brother is trying to plant their behinds stateside so they can get in on the gravy. Our President is nothing less than a traitor.
     
  11. longeyes

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    Let's be upfront about this: We're in the early stages of a civil war. The only real issue is whether the civil war is between illegal aliens and citizens or citizens and an illegal alien-enabling government.

    The trespassers and squatters have decided they are "entitled." A lot of us say they aren't.
     
  12. Sgt Stevo

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    This is already a war. If armed troops cross the DMZ in Korea, they are shot.

    If they do it here, our gov denies it happened. there is also links between illegal smugglers and our enemys in the middle east.

    The border patrol is constantly in danger. I have friend from the old days that is doing the mil side of the house down there.

    He said it is as sketchy as the Stans. There cars have been trashed. And he hears shots from the other side of the border.

    How do I join the Minutemen by the way?
     
  13. longeyes

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    The only real hope is that enough of the RINO scum who support these bills (esp in the Senate) are booted out in the primary elections to send a clear message.
     
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    hahaha.. so much for the fence idea. All this crap is symbolic anyway.. The Minutemen build a fence to stop illegals. Someone destroys the fence to show how futile a fence is. Fences are easy to defeat.. you can go over them, around them, or straight through them.
     
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    This true for fences that have no one manning watch points on them.... :fire:
     
  17. wingnutx

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    No. Burglary yes, but you cannot use deadly force for mere trespassing.

    This is according to the CCW class that I took 2 weeks ago.
     
  18. ball3006

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    You never hear of the illegals....

    cutting fences and crossing property at night in Texas..........chris3
     
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    When you find out, let me know..
    I had read just a few days ago that that was
    exactly what was happening regarding the water
    tanks. Be interesting if there was a process to
    electrify that fence in such a way so if there is
    a break in the series at whatever breached point,
    a small explosive would discharge leaving any
    around it covered in bright florescent ink stains
    mixed with skunk urine..

    One way to find em, but I admit it's not The High
    Road way. One must make sure though the ink
    would be bio degradable. No sense in messing up
    the pretty desert's high and low areas.
     
  20. cavman

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    Chris Simcox , Minute man founder, is on Fox and stronly suggesting Border Agents cut the wire! as they had access to the land and the footprints are same/similar to Border Agents.

    Trying to get my head around this one.
     
  21. Mannlicher

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    The only people that are endangering the lives of illegal immigrants are those that encourage them. I just can't dredge up any sympathy for those that are breaking our immigration laws, and even less for those Americans that are aiding and abetting that criminal effort. This is not a human rights issue.
     
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    Let me get this straight they put up a fence to keep illegals out and are surprised that someone illegally destroyed it?

    Who in their wildest imagination would figure that people who would tunnel under ground or wade through sewer systems to invade to invade another country or those that support people who commit these illegal acts would resort to cutting a fence.
    And such a mighty and massive fence too.
    http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/images/photos/ypsclaxl.jpg
     
  23. Valkman

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    They weren't near done, and they screwed up leaving it like that. A Minuteman guy on TV (same guy cavman is talking about) all but accused the Border Patrol of cutting the fence, saying only the BP and land owners had access to it. He said it also could have been set up to look like the BP did it.

    Anyway, they should have got the other stuff up too like vehicle barriers and cameras which they're going to do now.
     
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    When your President and allied forces, both political and commercial, clearly want open borders, it is no longer implausible to suspect "interference." The Minutemen represent a popular front that poses a threat to the consolidated power emanating from On High. "D.C." understands that very well. The power boys want that cheap labor; if the Minutemen get too obstreperous they will be taught a lesson to discourage them.
     
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    Mexico needs a revolution.
     
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