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varmint ar for less than a grand.

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by SimplyChad, Mar 21, 2012.

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  1. SimplyChad

    SimplyChad Member

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    One of the few classes of weapon I don't own is something in the "evil black rifle" group. I have actually left a space or 3 open in one of the safes just for a sks, ar, and ak. Well as of this week I have an ak and a sks in the mail. The ar class is calling to me. Something about a American platform this is cheap to shoot.
    Anyway next on the list is an Ar varmint configuration. I know M-4s backwards forewords and inside out. But when it comes to the civilian sector I dont know much about ars plain and simple. What companies are any good and what not. SO this question is this: Is there a company that makes a varmint barreled ar 15 for around a grand? And if so how good are they? Cant wait until i actually get to get home and use it.
     
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  2. Art Eatman

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    Prairie dog accuracy would likely be a tad more expensive than coyote accuracy. The first demands groups of no more than one MOA--or a bit better. Most any decent AR will take care of Ol' Wily to 200 yards, easily.
     
  3. Tex4426

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    Rock river makes several coyote ARs..all guarantee 3/4 moa or better with good ammo..I've got a custom one on the way...I just bought an upper so idk the price of the whole gun...upper base price was 630..others are cheaper
     
  4. SimplyChad

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    When I say varmint I mean yotes and rabbits and such. The 3/4 moa or less is what Im after.
     
  5. SDBoltz

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    Yes Rock River makes some pretty nice AR's and their hunting line will have what you need for right around $1000. They have nice barrels, 2 stage match triggers and are ready for optics. There is a Varmint A4 18" hanging in the store in Vegas for $920. Also Bushmaster has an A2 Target with a match barrel and trigger for about $884 on Buds Guns. If you're staying under the $1000 mark get the best barrel you can. Also you're probably relegated to a fixed A2 stock (which I like) - Here is a review of the Varmint A4 from Mel at Snipercentral that shows how well these RR's can shoot. I like that the RR's have a Wylde chamber that shoots both .223 and 5.56 reliably.

    http://www.snipercentral.com/rra.htm
     
  6. jim243

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    Varmint AR's are a bit of a different breed than a M-4. Most are 22 or 24 inch barrels with a National Match 223 chamber and 2 stage trigger, generally bull barrels, most stainless steel.

    This ones a 24 inch. Min of prarrie dog at 500 meters.

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    I have the predator pursuit, and definitely shoots better than the 3/4 moa guarantee by RRA. My rifle like the Hornady superformance match in 55gr.
     
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    My DPMS Bull 20" has been the bane of many a prairie dog and contrary to many internet opinions has been 100% reliable. I sure wouldn't want to tote it around to shoot 'yotes though.......it was <$1000.


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  9. SimplyChad

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    what kind of moa yall getting?
     
  10. jim243

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    .325 at a 100 yards, well with in the .50 guarantee by the mfg.

    Jim
     
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    With it's preferred load using 60 grain V-max bullets it shoots around 1.5" @ 200 yards off of a bi-pod. I'm sure if I took more time and worked with the loads it would shoot better but I like to hunt more than I like to punch paper so I quit developing loads when I found a decent one.
     
  12. Tex4426

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    looks like the bushmaster varminter...i will agree with jim on everything except a 20" barrel is fine..my dad has the bushmaster predator, the other day we were shooting and he pulled off a group you could cover with the 223 shell...about .226 inch 3 shot group..its consistent at .5-.8 inch groups...we shoot it out to 5 or 6 hundred yards and would have no trouble hitting a coyote...as far as praire dog..depends on how good a shot you are and how good of rest you have,,,both the rock and bushy are very accurate coyote getters


    the RRA predator pursuit is the same barrel as the national match upper.. but its 1 pound lighter..the full rifle msrp's for 1125 and thats with hogue grips and 2 stage match trigger, flat top upper...


    http://rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=229
     
  13. SimplyChad

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    hmm i wonder how many 500 yrd shots do u think ill get in east texas? Hmm i think ill out back another 500 or so. Plus glass of couse
    How well do yall think that would work out?
     
  14. Tex4426

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    idk anything about east texas terrain

    and what do you mean by this statement

    Hmm i think ill out back another 500 or so. Plus glass of couse
     
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    sry crappy key board. I mean ill just put back another $500 plus some good scope money
     
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    i bought a scope from natchez..its a 6-24x50 weaver extreme classic with standard reticle. side focus..red dot(for night hunting) 30mm tube...paid 370 shipped on sale(reg 570)...i have not had the chance to use it but it looks like a great scope..it picks up alot of light(could still see when it was nearly dark)..and its got a lifetime warranty...just a though

    just dont buy a cheap scope for a nice gun


    i have 1100 in my custom RRA rifle(built the lower and custom ordered the upper)..i got RRA scope mount(really nice mount for 50 bucks) and 370 in glass, and 200 dollar pelican case(obviously the case is optional)...the gun is not done however because im waiting on the upper(its tough because im impatient and causing me to buy other guns and stuff to keep me from going insane)...you really cant go wrong with any of the brands listed so far..my dads bushy is real finicky but a lights out shooting gun
     
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    Here's two of mine. They're built alike. Krieger barrels with 12:1 twist. Well over $1000 but the 6x24x50 Nikons were as much as the barrels.
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    FWIW, And I know that some folks don't like Model 1 Sales, I built my varminter from one of their kits for $700, including the lower. If I had to do it again I'd have upgraded the trigger, but it shoots pretty well even with a stock (worked over) trigger and crappy glass. Assembling an AR is less complicated then the paperwork to buy one.

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    agree on the building it yourself part..but its usually cheaper in most cases to order an upper complete instead of getting parts and tools...the lower can be but together with whatever you find laying around...as for crappy glass it will not affect your shooting untill something breaks..i buy expensive not because i can afford it(because i really cant but i dont care) but because of the lifetime warranty..if you want a cheap scope BSA is a decent crappy scope i have a few with no problems yet..nice gun and a good looking group to boot!
     
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    Not here................223.
     
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    I have to agree with cheaper to buy already built. Oh well. I have some crappy scopes too. They're new but I found a good deal on (3) Nikon 5x20x44's so the crappys will go on the shelf.
     
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    Yes, it's a Bushy from before they sold to Remington.

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    Dang..didn't even know the had a 223 in 1:12 twist
     
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    I have a RRA 16" Varmit. It has shot sub 1/2 MOA 5 shot groups. It seems to shoot everything well. It even did a 10 shot group of the cheap Remington Green and White box (UMC?) just over MOA - that shocked me as I didn't think the ammo was capable of anything like that.
     
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