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Varmint style Target AR opinions...

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Carbon_15, Jun 7, 2011.

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  1. Carbon_15

    Carbon_15 Member

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    Im thinking of adding a varmint style Ar to my collection just for target shooting and plinking.
    Sportsmans Warehouse has the Bushmaster Varmint Special stainless for just over $1k
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    or

    I could buy this lower build kit and a Receiver from Palmetto State
    http://www.palmettostatearmory.com/2199.php
    and this DPMS upper from Midway
    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/default.aspx?productnumber=173618

    Price would work out the same...almost to the dollar. the Bushmaster has an advantage, because it is already assembled and know to be a very accurate reliable rifle.
    The Palmetto/DPMS has an advantage in that for the same price I am getting a very expensive Magpul PRS stock and Geissele SSA-E trigger.

    HELP
    thanks
     
  2. Canuck-IL

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    I don't see the Bushy listed on the Sportsman's Warehouse website and a quick look indicates that Bushmaster only offers a 24" so, not sure I'm looking at the same specs you're talking about.

    Anyway, the BM on their website has a 1:9 twist while the DPMS is 1:8 - I'd prefer the latter to allow a greater range of bullet weights.

    The Geissele would be a preferred trigger - they stand behind their products. If you can't piece it together cheaper part by part (LPK, trigger, stock), I'd go with your second option - the build is trivially easy.
    /Bryan
     
  3. BADUNAME37

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    Sounds like a plan!
    If you do not currently have a semi-auto, it is a great idea! If you already have a semi-auto, then you may want to consider a bolt-action in a good varmint round (.223 or 22-250 are my choices). Then, for $1,000 you can get a decent gun which can be accurized and a decent scope (I prefer Leupold, Vari-X-III) with mounts which will run you about $500 for the scope and the other $500 to put into the gun and accurizing (glass-bedding, free-float the barrel and a trigger job).

    If you spend $1,000 for the gun itself, what do you plan to do for optics, as you will most likely want a scope to shoot accurately out to at least 300 yards, I would think.

    These are just my opinions, other user's mileage may vary.
     
  4. madcratebuilder

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    This is an easy choice. Those two items are a $450 upgrade.
     
  5. Damon555

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    I put together a varmint/target AR for around $1100. It's a DPMS bull 20 with an elcheapo simmons 6.5-20 whitetail classic scope. The scope isn't the best but it gets the job done. This is a very accurate combo with both 40 grain and 60 grain V-maxes.

    I've never had one malfunction with this rifle despite all the internet DPMS bashing.

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  6. Cemetery21

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    I had a 20" DPMS Bull barreled upper for several years on a prairie dog rifle. Excellent accuracy, not far behind 700 Varmints and a 40X. I used it only from a bench. It's weight is not something you would want to carry very far. I eventually went to 24" AR barrels for the increased velocity, but I never had a problem with the 20" reliability or accuracy in a litle over 10,000 rounds.
    The trigger on your #2 option is a big plus for your stated purpose.
     
  7. Eaglestroker

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    I like the 24" upper Palmetto is offering - has had be thinking of building one myself.
     
  8. benzy2

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    I know I sound like a broken record but WOA upper and the lower however you like it. You can get anything from an 18" to 26" complete upper with bcg for $650 or less. Then, spend the other $350 on the lower you like with the options you like. You won't have all the rails, but you will get a decent smooth float tube with an upper that should shoot better than anything else in the price point.
     
  9. jim243

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    It won't help you with bullet weights, you are limited to bullets by length of your magazine. 2.250 inch, unless you want to feed them in one at a time.

    1:9 twist is good for an AR and unless you will be shooting comps at long range the heavier bullets will not help much. For bullets beyond the 69 grain I use a bolt action 223.

    Jim


    50 to 60 grain
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    beyond 60 grain
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  10. benzy2

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    You can load hornady 75gr hpbt match and Sierra 77gr match kings to mag length in an AR.
     
  11. TonyAngel

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    I do believe that the Bushmaster Varminter and Predator models have 1:8 twist barrels. My Predator (20") did, anyway. It shot very well, although the barrel wasn't stainless.
     
  12. Sky

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    I have the Varminter and Predator; both have the Bushmaster two stage trigger. For my purposes of varmint popping they work very well.
     
  13. Carbon_15

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    palmeto state has lowers on sale for $49...so I went that direction.
    Scope options? Looking to spend around or under $300
    thx.
     
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