Very cool. Just bought the Wife a Kel Tec 32 and ....

[foxmoor]

The P32 is a good pistol for a woman and a trigger shoe is a great addition. It makes a huge difference in shooting.

 

[Badger Arms]

What, no pictures?

 

[remotegun]

Do you have pictures??

 

[woad_yurt]

Why all of the fuss regarding JHPs? It's a semi-weak caliber and one shouldn't waste any of that precious muzzle energy with expansion. There isn't enough to go around as it is. Use the FMJ. Better a small hole that's deep enough than a big hole that's too shallow.

 

[gpr]

put the flyer wire in the hollow point mag...get an extra mag, fill it with fmj, then you have the best of both worlds...fmj is NOT 100% inmune from rim lock...i can attest to that...gpr

 

[KBintheSLC]

fmj is NOT 100% inmune from rim lock...i can attest to that...gpr

True... but exercising a bit of care when loading the mag will go a long way in making sure it doesn't happen to you.

 

[christcorp]

A quick note; if you get some european ammo; like fiocchi or Sellier and Bellot; they tend to be a hair longer and work much better, even in Hollow Point. Also, I am more of a fan with FMJ because of the slower speed and therefor expansion of a HP isn't really going to happen. Especially if the BG has any clothing on other than a t-shirt. And you'll NEVER over penetrate with a 32 acp. You're not going to get the knock-down (energy) that you'll get from a 45acp, 357mag, 44, etc... But a 32acp is a fine weapon for a carry gun, and unloading a clip of FMJ into the BG will definitely accomplish the mission. European police have used this caliber for many years prior to moving to other calibers. It's obviously not that bad. And with some hotter bullets like the fiocchi, you will have about the same results as at least a .380. Corbon is another. I would still go with FMJ unless it was summer; no jackets on the BG; and you were using fiocchi or corbon; then a HP might be OK.

I've had a few 32acp and I really like them. I just picked up an FEG Hungarian AP-MBP 7.65 (32acp) Walther PP clone. Sweet gun. I will definitely use it as my "Summer" warm weather carry gun. As with anything, shot placement is everything. For normal non- shorts and short sleeve shirt weather, I normally carry my Sig P-220 45acp. But for a carry gun, the 32acp is fine. Just use FMJ or Fiocchi/Corbon ammo. later... mike....

 

[TimM]

interesting read, I carry a Beretta .32acp when lightly dressed (shorts and T) and carry a hot handload HP in the chamber and all slightly warmed-up FMJ handloads in the mag.

This really isn't the thread to get into this but you might want to do some research on carrying handloads for SD. The lawyers could have a field day with you if, god forbid, you ever need to fire your weapon on a human target.

 

[christcorp]

As long as the ammo is loaded within specs of the gun (Which it would have to be or you'd blow your hand/face off); and as long as you're not hand molding some non-standard bullet (mercury, nuclear, razor, etc...); then no lawyer is going to touch you for that in a self defense case. Because the brass, primers, bullets, and powder are the same as what's in commercially purchased ammo. The only difference is that you saved some money doing it yourself. And the most anyone could do was to change out the type and amount of powder; getting more speed; but at such a caliber, you still aren't getting up to anything even a 9mm, 40, 38, 357, 45, etc... are capable of. Lawyers coming after you for having hand loads in a self defense case is a wives tale. Again; if you mold your own bullets out of porcelain, fiberglass, Teflon, mercury filled, etc... then you're on your own. But as long as the components are commercial/consumer purchased, then the ONLY thing you have control over as a hand loader is velocity and thus energy. None of which has a limitation. I.e. you can defend yourself with a 25, 32, 38, 357, 44, 45, 12 gauge, 7mm mag, or any other firearm that is legal for you to purchase and own.

 

[TimM]

Lawyers coming after you for having hand loads in a self defense case is a wives tale.

yeah... your right and Massad Ayoob is wrong. Thanks for correcting that for me.

 

[christcorp]

Tim; you tell me what sort of "Hand Load" was being questioned in a self-defense lawsuit. If you hand load with commercial components and aren't altering anything, then there is absolutely nothing for you to be concerned about. But if you've got some article or such that explain how someone reloading their 45acp with winchester 231, a CCI large primer, in a standard brass case, and 230 grain hollow point gold dot or similar got a self defense charge reversed into an "Offensive Attack"; I'll recant my comment. And as I said; molding your own bullets and modifying an ammunition spec, is a different ball game.