I'd venture he mentioned the 80% because you're building a Glock clone, and the ONLY remotely affordable Glock clone frame today is an 80% grip frame. Maybe @Solomonson has me on his ignore list? As I've asked twice, but haven't gotten a response yet...? You made the proposition: Since you're sure of it, and since you're lambasting anyone who doesn't share your opinion, show us how smart YOU are... Can you elucidate the pathway to change that? How to get a serialized Glock clone grip frame for $49.99? Currently, polymer80 lowers run $150, with a remarkable current sale for $70. Lone Wolf Timberwolf frames run $199 currently for a stripped frame (this is a complete, serialized part). Our current world is this: $200+ for a slide. $150+ for a frame (not counting this current "one time only sale" on the 80% G17 frames). $150+ for a barrel. The ancillary parts, currently, are $150+. That's $650. Even with a consumer realizable price of $70 - the current sale on Polymer80 frames - we're talking $570 to build a glock clone today. What is our first step in reducing the manufacturers' production cost of ANY SINGLE ONE of those components above, to reach your $199.99 goal? Or alternatively - what is your recommended first step in reducing the consumer price of ANY SINGLE ONE of those components above? The retail prices of Glock's haven't gotten cheaper over the years, they've only gotten more expensive to the consumer. So whether production costs were reduced or not, the competing product pricing of a factory Glock will ALWAYS remain to drive the cost of a Glock clone - in lay terms - if a retailer can fetch a higher margin because the competing alternatives are higher priced, he'll charge the higher price and pay those increased profits as dividends to investors with a smile on his face. So effectively, the question becomes: what's the pathway to eliminating competitive capitalism in the US?