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Victim made 7 911 calls before mass murder

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  1. Stebalo

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    http://www.local6.com/news/3638171/detail.html

    Victim Made Seven 911 Calls Before Mass Murder
    Belanger, Others Reportedly Targeted Over Xbox

    POSTED: 12:54 pm EDT August 10, 2004
    UPDATED: 8:22 am EDT August 11, 2004

    Investigators in Volusia County, Fla., released seven 911 calls Tuesday made from one of the six victims of the Deltona mass murder, according to Local 6 News.

    Local 6 News reported that just days before Erin Belanger was beaten to death, she called authorities to report squatters in her grandparents' private home.

    Accused killer and ringleader of Friday's mass murder, Troy Victorino was reportedly one of several men living on property. The group refused to leave until police arrived, Local 6 News reported.

    "For like a month now, I guess people have been living inside her (grandmother's) breezeway," Belanger is heard one on the 911 calls released Tuesday. "They broke into her breezeway."

    After the call, deputies showed up and forced the group of men out of the house.

    "A DVD player is missing from my grandmother's house, (a) radio, and I don't know what else," Belanger said in another call just days before the murders.

    She reported people had barged into her home on Telford Lane and wouldn't leave, according to the report.

    During the phone call, Belanger does not mention Victorino by name but friends told Local 6 News that he had threatened her.

    Victorino reportedly targeted Belanger and five others because she removed his Xbox video game from the house he was unauthorized to live in, Local 6 News reported.

    Dispatchers also fielded calls from neighbors and a homeowner in Maine reporting squatters, Local 6 News reported.

    Deputies were unaware that the seven phone calls would be followed by the mass murders, according to the report.

    Investigators continued to collect new evidence Tuesday from the home where Victorino was arrested.

    Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
     
  2. nero45acp

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    Just goes to show you that YOU are responsible for your own safety.

    If just one of the victims had owned a firearm the outcome may have been different.:(


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  3. sm

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    This is sad.

    1) Seven rds of 1911
    2) Seven 911 calls.

    So sad option 1 was not available.
     
  4. tcsd1236

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    Repeat calls to the same address in a short time are not at all uncommon.
     
  5. SaintofKillers

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    Right, kind of like the boy crying wolf right,:rolleyes: Just another excuse for members of law enforcement. Dial 911 and your on your own. Dont you think that after the second or third time someone would get the picture.
     
  6. Carlos Cabeza

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    If I went to all that trouble and my paid protection detail wouldn't do a damn thing I'd be forced to act on my own. Oh, wait just a minute. You say I don't have a PAID protection detail......................WTH are they for ???????????:fire: :cuss: A 7 shot marine magnum would have been a lifesaver.
     
  7. ojibweindian

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    911 is good for evidence collecting, not protection.
     
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    From what I understand as to the actuall circumstances of this case LE's did all that they could do. Law enforcement officers aren't mind readers.

    A house alarm (for warning) and readily available self defense firearms would have saved the lives of these people against the baseball bat weilding thugs.
     
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    Guys, please chill on the 'blame the cops' stance. From what I understand, they repsonded to the calls and made the squaters leave the house.

    Geezzz, THIS is journalism?
     
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    Delete: Double tap
     
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    Let's take a look at the road to these murders and the massive incompetence all around.

    • In '96 Troy Victorino almost beats a man to death, but prosecuters only charge him with aggravated battery and he gets six years eventhough he's a repeat offender..
    • July 29th, Victorino (who was on probation) is arrested for assault and allowed to post bond.
    • His probation officer is notified of the violation of probation. A report requesting am arrest warrant is required within 48 hours, his PO waits until August 6.
    • Police finally respond to calls of squatters who have broken into someone's home. Victorino is among those who is simply told to leave instead of being arrested.
    • On August 5, Victorino meets with his PO. Although he's been informed of Victorino's arrest, his PO decides not to call the police to arrest him.
    • August 6, Victorino gathers three friends and they murder six people because he believes that they stole his XBox.
    • Somewhere above we also have repeated calls of Victorino threatening one of the women and even coming back to steal things. These calls are spread out over several days and nothing is done.
    A good number of people should be losing their jobs and facing criminal and civil charges for indirectly murdering six people. Four probation officers have already been fired and that better be just the beginning.
     
  12. TallPine

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    You have the right to remain helpless.
    If you do not have an attacker, the courts will release one for you.
    :D


    OTOH, a city police dispatch gets what? - thousands of calls per day?
    They can't necessarily tie all these calls together until later - N number at such and such an address. And then what is supposed to happen? A responding officer can only act on the information that he/she has at that moment.

    An unarmed household is a helpless household.
    Take threats seriously!
    Call 911 to clean up the mess.
     
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    heard on news the lady was beat so bad dental records couldnt even help identify her.

    sad but true.
     
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    Doubtless the Probation department is understaffed, underfunded, and vastly overworked. This one PO probably has dozens of violent offenders to work with and hundreds of others.
     
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    Yea, it's easier to just create whole classes of people like "felons" and "non-violent offenders" to take their rights away and create the illusion of being tough on crime while running circles around the Constitution and Bill of Rights instead of keeping the ones who belong in prison locked up.
     
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    "Deputies were unaware that the seven phone calls would be followed by the mass murders, according to the report."


    :confused:
     
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    "911 - Government-sponsored Dial-A-Prayer" :) An oddly apropos bumper-sticker I've seen.
     
  18. longrifleman

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    Well, squatting equals Grand Theft House! Why weren't they arrested right then for tresspassing? Are property rights so inconsequential anymore that stealing a whole house doesn't mean a thing?
     
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    All but one of those calls were for a different location than the death house, sure the guys should have been arrested for tresspassing but that was at a another location

    The house was known as a "party house" she called to report party crashers who would not leave, she did not notify authorities of death threats made against her.

    The PO and several others responsible have already been fired

    I'm as quick as any body to critisize bad cops this doesn't seem to be the case here
     
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    I want to clarify my earlier post. MY post had NOTHING to do with the LEO aspect - Please - don't go there.

    MY perspective IS From the EDUCATION of the PUBLIC. Personally - and I am ADAMENT about this - PEOPLE are being Given the WRONG Information and Perspective on Personal Protection. Mis-Information if you please.

    Politicians , enactment of legislative "restictions" , Media....The PUBLIC has bought into this "touchy feely" , become complacent . Burns my butt that fireams have a negative connotation in today's society. Firearms are THE Reason we have the Free Society we have.

    IF one or more victims had been educated [ and yes I am assuming otherwise] and the gun laws were such that - well hell- no gun laws, THEN perhaps - just maybe - at least one or more victims would have used Awareness techniques, been armed, and would have been able to defend themselves and / or others.

    Folks don't vote , Folks don't teach kids about firearms and awareness, Folks don't keep abreast of developements with Legislative matters.

    Folks do listen to Hollywood, Mis-information about guns by the media , Politicans ...they only vote for the best "Idol" or " Date for Daddy".

    This is not only sad - it gets folks killed.
     
  21. CZ-100

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    While I do not think I would confront the 7 with my pistol, one would be on my belt and most likly the AK in my hands.:evil:
     
  22. Standing Wolf

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    That's so true, it hurts.
     
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    "I'm as quick as any body to critisize bad cops this doesn't seem to be the case here"

    You've gotta admit that the quote is funny though. It might be the funniest thing I've ever read. Is mindreading in their job description? Maybe funny isn't the word, maybe stupid is better. Talk about Monday morning quarterbacking.

    "Deputies were unaware that the seven phone calls would be followed by the mass murders, according to the report."
     
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    In many jurisidictions the decision to arrest lies with the property owner who makes a private person's or "citizen's" arrest. The police just haul off the prisoners. If all the property owner wants is for the squatters to leave, the police have no option to pursue the case past making them leave.

    Pilgrim
     
  25. P95Carry

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    Dang - Standing Wolf picked up on that already --- but, so true.

    When it comes to attacks I really feel 911 is nothing more than ''get someone along with chalk and mop''!

    Bottom line ... each and every man or woman has to themselves, take responsibility for their own protection - there is nothing else that can work. Logical and accurate in the extreme .... and I wish anti's could prove otherwise.
     
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