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Virginia Man Shoots & Kills Intruding Pimp

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Nightfall, Oct 2, 2005.

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  1. Nightfall

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    http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=92892&ran=118659

    And so, thanks to another brave man, the world is a little safer.
     
  2. Vern Humphrey

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    This was from the Virginian-Pilot. I wonder what the Newport News Daily Pravda had to say about this incident -- probably demanding the victims be executed without trial.
     
  3. Standing Wolf

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    If I were a wagering man, I'd bet the criminal won't try that again very soon.
     
  4. JohnKSa

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    Another one rehabilitated! :D
     
  5. Mixlesplick

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    Good riddance. I hope they can put this behind them. The police returned his pistol quickly. Good for them.

    I bought extra slats when I got wood blinds and installed them vertically on the sides of my blinds. I'm not paranoid, I just had a nosy neighbor who liked to peep in my windows when he came over to annoy me. Grrr. :fire:
     
  6. SIGarmed

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    Another dirtbag gone. Good riddance.
     
  7. Janitor

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    He turned the guy into a good pimp.

    But what's up with stuff like this? -
    "erupted'? The floodlight "erupted"?
     
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  8. gunsmith

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    Standing Wolf

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  9. thorn726

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    im just a little confused-
    was there other info about the BG somewhere?

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    you know the screwy thing about burglars, it's easy for the person who has never been burglarized to say
    "well, that is harsh punishment for break and enter"

    but having come home to a robbed apt, thinking what it would be like to have someone bust the glass if i had been home?
    id like the option of at least putting a fat hole in a leg BEFORE BG pulls out a weapon, which isnt the case here or most places.

    seems like this law doesnt allow shooting someone who is simply trespassing correct?

    forcible entry does make a lot of sense, and sounds like a real good deterrent.

    i would hope people would make a slight effort to remember that BIG guy up there who set down some rules, and maybe attempt to disable BG rather than "kill" though.
     
  10. Cosmoline

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    Good reporting there. Very clearly written. I love the bit about the pimp shutting off their sprinklers :neener:
     
  11. Nightfall

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    thorn726, the article has some information about the bad guy in it, specifically...
     
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    Thorn,
    Ever been through a home invasion? I have, and at the time I wasn't prepared or equipped to deal with the situation. This resident was....and did the right thing. You don't shoot to wound or disable, you shoot to stop the threat. The best way to do that is to shoot for center of mass. If that happens to result in DRT (dead right there), then so be it. I think the victim showed remarkable restraint only firing one shot...you won't get that kind of chance at my place, not again anyway.
     
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    :rolleyes: Now that's service.
     
  14. Spreadfire Arms

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    another fine example of Darwinism in action.

    i worked as an LE officer for 7 years and i never saw "pimping" on anyone's rap sheet......! :D
     
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    Considering the Big Guy upstairs has ordered entire nations to be put to the sword, I doubt He would be overly concerned if you "killed" someone defending your home. The commandment was not to "murder" after all.

    Sounds like the guy was alert and knew what he had to do. Good for him. Considering the pimp knew someone was home and awake says to me that he was interested in more than burglary.
     
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    ah, so he was a pimp, ok.

    and i am not disputing the "aim for center of mass" especially in the dark, etc.

    i am a little ocncerned there is no indication guy said anything to BG first though.
    i guess it is too much to ask we all shout "get out of here i have a gun"

    and as far as Big Guy sending us to war- i want you to think real real hard about that one. as yourself when was the last time God sent anyone to war, and WHO came to us since then.

    the commmandment does not say murder, read it again. it says kill.

    i don't expect a single earth bound human to be willing to take it, i know people will shoot, i just think maybe a bunch of folks are just a little too excited about a death that may not exactly have been necessary.

    just seems that for a group that at times appears very religous, y'all are real good at forgetting about the possibilty of forgivness and mercy.

    i just don't think Jesus would be shouting for joy if he shot a BG.
     
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    Exactly what the police ought to do when coming to collect a deceased home intruder.
    "Thank you, Mr. Homeowner, for taking this man off the streets. Here is the number to a great carpet cleaning service. Have a nice evening."
     
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    Read it in another translation.
    Or read it in the original Hebrew.
     
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    It would be hard for the Word to say "thou shalt not kill," because the Lord cannot abide sin and there has been several examples of His angels killing people. I have trouble believing the Lord would order his angels to sin.

    It sounds to me that shootings such as this are exactly the kind of situation other states ( :cuss: MARYLAND :cuss: ) needs to look at. Good shoot, and I hope the guy's girlfriend gets the therapy she needs.
     
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    "Taylor was still at the top of the stairs and Warren was on the phone
    to the police when they heard glass break, echoing through the
    three-level house with hardwood floors.

    The alarm system blared like a siren, Taylor said."

    Thorn,

    The criminal broke the window, set the alarm off and came into the house anyway.

    It's not murder when someone goes through the locks, ignores the alarm, and keeps coming anyway. You should be in fear for your life and respond as if defending your life.
     
  21. Mongo the Mutterer

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    A bit off subject, but does anybody get the "ceiling fans" part of the story...

    This gal thinks she is Mickey Spillane or something. :D

    On subject, as others have said the perp KNEW someone was home. He wanted more than robbery. He got a dirt nap. Good riddance.
     
  22. dasmi

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    If we're going strictly by what the Bible says, this guy got what was coming to him. Broke in at night, got killed, "there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed."

    And before anyone says "that was the old testament, before Jesus..."

     
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    I'd prefer that this not become a discussion about religion.

    Thorn, if you really feel the need to nitpick how this guy defended his home, the Strategies & Tactics forum is thattaway.
     
  24. Byron Quick

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    The foregoing ignores the physiological results of stress on the shooter's body. Unless you have no physiological reactions to stress as well as being a super shooter, then you had best aim at the center of mass.

    You are free to shout anything you please. And give your opponent a place to aim at and time to do so. Just think: After you're dead, the way to your girlfriend is clear.

    The pertinent Georgia law does not require that you give warning to a home invader. The law was followed in both spirit and letter.

    Sorry, I am not a Christian, have never claimed on this board or any other to be Christian, nor do I play one on TV. I have read the Bible, though. Please refer me to the pertinent sections where Christ forbids killing in self defense.

    Am I pleased with this criminal's death? Yes. Very pleased. As a Georgian who goes to Macon several times a year; I am safer due to Mr. Taylor's action. You are welcome to have all the misplaced sympathy and compassion you want for those who would kill, injure, and degrade you. As one who has been burglarized and been assaulted; I have none whatsoever.

    And several warnings were given to the deceased: a locked window, intact window panes, locked doors, and an audible alarm, lights going on and off, and it being obvious to an observer that the home was occupied. After all these warnings, do you honestly believe that a verbal warning would have sufficed?

    thorn, I sincerely hope you are never placed in the position of being in need of defending yourself or your family. Your mindset appears to be woefully unprepared.

    Instead of saying,"I've got a gun!"...would you say,"Here I am! Shoot over here!" One's about the same as the other, friend. :rolleyes:
     
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    MechAg94 & dasmi

    .... you hit it on the nose.
     
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