Virginia Man Shoots & Kills Intruding Pimp
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I have to say I am very proud to be a Mercer Law Grad. BTW, One of the biggest student clubs at Mercer's law school is Ducks Unlimited, a Hunter's conservation group. Many of the law school students are hunters, and many carry guns.
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Mercer University Walter F. George School of Law Class of '96
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Mercer University Walter F. George School of Law Class of '96
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thorn726
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ok, ok i see the very good point about the lights being turned off, you're right.
BG did have ample reason to believe house was occupied, you've convinced me shooting was a resonable idea.
i guess i am assuming a little too much- that good guy had clear sight of BG-
who had his hands full with the window. but that must not be the case.
it figures the one in fifty non religous person responds to that part of my post, you should realize i dont expect an athiest to care about life at all.
i just don't see a killing as something joyous, and it doesnt seem like great PR for gun owners to be cheering about "we got another one"
unarmed intruders being killed is what makes lamo parents go full on anti.
SORRY- but i am trying to examine all points of view here, regardless of whether i personally would like to see 99% of thieves shot dead.
the big problem with this kind of shooting is eventually some rich loser CA parent lets their kid get hooked on speed, the kid gets killed, the parent uses their millions to create BS laws.
think it doesnt happen? or that some civil liberity group doesnt do similar?
just trying to get some thinking happen that's all.
i retract my statements about warnings, there were plenty of non verbal warnings for this intruder.
BG did have ample reason to believe house was occupied, you've convinced me shooting was a resonable idea.
i guess i am assuming a little too much- that good guy had clear sight of BG-
who had his hands full with the window. but that must not be the case.
it figures the one in fifty non religous person responds to that part of my post, you should realize i dont expect an athiest to care about life at all.
i just don't see a killing as something joyous, and it doesnt seem like great PR for gun owners to be cheering about "we got another one"
unarmed intruders being killed is what makes lamo parents go full on anti.
SORRY- but i am trying to examine all points of view here, regardless of whether i personally would like to see 99% of thieves shot dead.
the big problem with this kind of shooting is eventually some rich loser CA parent lets their kid get hooked on speed, the kid gets killed, the parent uses their millions to create BS laws.
think it doesnt happen? or that some civil liberity group doesnt do similar?
just trying to get some thinking happen that's all.
i retract my statements about warnings, there were plenty of non verbal warnings for this intruder.
dasmi
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Very very poor assumption. I am not an atheist, but I know quite a few who are decent, caring human beings. In fact, I'd suspect most are. I also know some "christians" who are not decent, caring human beings.
thorn726
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i know i know, just being prickly there.
i mean reality- there are many lifetime thieves i know of that the law keeps letting slip - would i really care if they disappeared? hardly.
that makes me laugh on so many levels.
but i guess this site isnt about convincing antis, i have to remember that.
it's really just about the same rhetoric from the other side, no real effort to make sense out of each other. you laugh at the brady bunch, the brady bunch laughs at you, and a few of us citizens lay low in the middle.
it is impossible to be a " 100% honest" citizen.
i mean reality- there are many lifetime thieves i know of that the law keeps letting slip - would i really care if they disappeared? hardly.
that makes me laugh on so many levels.
but i guess this site isnt about convincing antis, i have to remember that.
it's really just about the same rhetoric from the other side, no real effort to make sense out of each other. you laugh at the brady bunch, the brady bunch laughs at you, and a few of us citizens lay low in the middle.
it is impossible to be a " 100% honest" citizen.
Cosmoline
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LOL. The Torah was not written in the King's English. Neither was the Septuagint. You've been reading this thing called a "translation."
thorn726
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honestly i am thinking about something beyond that, but let's let the religous nonsense go already, and possibly consider an actuasl issue, how the gung ho kill em all attitude might scare a bunch of soccer moms into voting for anti regs.?
or just add me to ignore like everyone else here.
hehehe what this thread must look like to 80% of highroaders.
i love it. send yer kids to private scholl, get yer jobs thru friends , never ever expose yourself to any people you might not get along with,
you'd have to shoot them.
and then wonder why idiots write laws we all have to ignore
or just add me to ignore like everyone else here.
hehehe what this thread must look like to 80% of highroaders.
i love it. send yer kids to private scholl, get yer jobs thru friends , never ever expose yourself to any people you might not get along with,
you'd have to shoot them.
and then wonder why idiots write laws we all have to ignore
Turkey Creek
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The girlfriend ignors his order to go upstairs the first time and then has to be pushed up the steps- I bet she responds quicker, Lord forbid, there is a second break in-
dasmi
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Don't have kids. Got my job because I'm good at what I do. Work with people I don't agree with. Haven't shot them yet. Of course, they've never tried to break into my home.
Sorry for the thread drift and off-topic post but this might be very interesting to some people.
If you want a good place on the web to look up what the language of a verse means including translations then go to
http://www.blueletterbible.org/
This also has web based concordances. if you dont know what a concordance is then here is a definition.
The Strong's concordance is a very useful tool for studying the scriptures. It takes every single word of the King James Version and lists where each word can be found in the scriptures. It is useful for locating scripture verses that you know the words to, but don't know the book, chapter and verse.
For example, let's say that you know of a verse that says our hairs are numbered. You could look up the word "numbered" in a Strong's Concordance and it would give you a listing of all the verses that contain the word "numbered". You would then find Matthew 10:30, where Yahushua said that "the very hairs of your head are all numbered". You can find the Strong's Concordance in most any bible bookstore (See the graphic to your right).
Also beside each verse reference there is a number. That number represents a Hebrew word (if in the Old Testament) or Greek word (if in the New Testament). In the back of the book it lists Hebrew and Greek words used to translate the bible into English. Each has a a number beside them so that we may only need to know the number to locate a Greek or Hebrew word. Then we can do a word study by reading the meaning of the original word. Whenever I refer to a number in the Strong's concordance, you can look up the number for yourself in the Strong's Lexicon or other lexicons that use Strong's numbers to verify everything.
TallPine
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Am I the only one that finds this sort of thing perplexing...?
Maybe I'd feel different if it actually happened to me, but I think I'd feel no more remorse about it than shooting a porcupine (less even, because porcupines have to make a living too - I just don't want them to do it off of my trees).
I'd be thinking about all the women that won't have to deal with this scumbag in the future.
I am an atheist and this kind of statement from religious people makes me extremely angry. A theist has some place they think they go when they die, an atheist does not. In my mind that makes the theist less likely to value their own life or that of others. For an atheist this life is a one-shot deal, no heaven, no afterlife, no eternity. Life is finite and I value mine and others above all else.
Strings
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>it figures the one in fifty non religous person responds to that part of my post, you should realize i dont expect an athiest to care about life at all.<
Hey, wait a sec. I'd be willing to bet the other pagans here have the same attitude twords the deceased as I do: he made his choices. I'm glad one more who thinks someone else's house is his own personal shopping spree is gone. Not to mention whatever he planned on doing with the girl...
>i just don't see a killing as something joyous, and it doesnt seem like great PR for gun owners to be cheering about "we got another one"
unarmed intruders being killed is what makes lamo parents go full on anti.<
Maybe not. However, if more people HAD the "we got another one" attitude, we'd have far less crime. Which to me, seems the better path...
Hey, wait a sec. I'd be willing to bet the other pagans here have the same attitude twords the deceased as I do: he made his choices. I'm glad one more who thinks someone else's house is his own personal shopping spree is gone. Not to mention whatever he planned on doing with the girl...
>i just don't see a killing as something joyous, and it doesnt seem like great PR for gun owners to be cheering about "we got another one"
unarmed intruders being killed is what makes lamo parents go full on anti.<
Maybe not. However, if more people HAD the "we got another one" attitude, we'd have far less crime. Which to me, seems the better path...
Thorn,
You might do well to research who the people on this board are before you sling monkey crap at the whole crowd. You can try to dismiss the folks who offered counterarguments to your statements with a lame ad hominem attack, but it won't stand examination. You will find far more people here who are creative, productive, intelligent, well traveled, self starters with a wider range of religious beliefs (or absence of) than the lame provincial stereotype you tried to hang around everyone's neck. Heck, the single largest profession here is IT geeks.
IF you take the time to look you'll find posts from Pax, me and others who have also brought up the question of whether some members sound bloodthirsty. We've asked how others might view us as a community. We've discussed how anti's might use the site against our unifying belief that every individual has the right to defend themselves and others with the most effective means available, firearms. What you won't find is these issues discussed reasonably because we got spanked for sloppy clichéd thinking.
:banghead:
And just so that others from the outside reading this don't think I'm some KKK hillbilly - non-IT technical professional, home owning, classical liberal, agnostic, theater season ticket holding, ballet watching, symphony supporting, environmentalist, military weapons collecting, martial arts practicing, PERSON!
You might do well to research who the people on this board are before you sling monkey crap at the whole crowd. You can try to dismiss the folks who offered counterarguments to your statements with a lame ad hominem attack, but it won't stand examination. You will find far more people here who are creative, productive, intelligent, well traveled, self starters with a wider range of religious beliefs (or absence of) than the lame provincial stereotype you tried to hang around everyone's neck. Heck, the single largest profession here is IT geeks.
IF you take the time to look you'll find posts from Pax, me and others who have also brought up the question of whether some members sound bloodthirsty. We've asked how others might view us as a community. We've discussed how anti's might use the site against our unifying belief that every individual has the right to defend themselves and others with the most effective means available, firearms. What you won't find is these issues discussed reasonably because we got spanked for sloppy clichéd thinking.
:banghead:
And just so that others from the outside reading this don't think I'm some KKK hillbilly - non-IT technical professional, home owning, classical liberal, agnostic, theater season ticket holding, ballet watching, symphony supporting, environmentalist, military weapons collecting, martial arts practicing, PERSON!
This proves to me that a .357 revolver is more effective than a 9mm sem-auto. A very similar inccident happened to me years ago, but when I let the slide go on my Walther, the dude dashed back outside like a bolt of lightning. I was glad I didn't have to shoot him, but I always wondered what evil deeds he committed after that. I later learned that someone matching his description had done multiple B&E's and a rape or two in my apartment complex.
I was glad I didn't have to shoot him, but I always wondered what evil deeds he committed after that. I later learned that someone matching his description had done multiple B&E's and a rape or two in my apartment complex.mbs357
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Yea, it could've been weeks...but still, why take it from him to begin with? I've never understood this part of the process. Yet another case of a well known bad guy going right back to business after his (probably cut short) jail time.
But still, score one for the god guys.
Cosmoline
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If by "gung ho kill them all" attitude you mean kill all the people who try to cut the phone line to my house and break in while I'm there, then yes I have a "kill them all" attitude. Whether it's a low-life pimp, a high-life pimp or a justice on the Supreme Court is completely irrelevant.
Yes, it is too much to ask. By breaking into a house with people in it, the intruder has already made it clear he is willing to kill you or worse. Why give him a target? Take the shot from concealment and end it.
Yes, it is too much to ask. By breaking into a house with people in it, the intruder has already made it clear he is willing to kill you or worse. Why give him a target? Take the shot from concealment and end it.
Byron Quick
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Once again, the shooter followed a Georgia STATUTE specifically in this shooting.
I guess Georgia just doesn't have the same type of idiots making laws that California does. Which is not to say that Georgia doesn't have some idiotic laws. Georgia legislators, however, are just not in the same class as California legislators. Consider the difference between the minor leagues and the major leagues. Our idiots are in awe of your idiots.
Taurus 66
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Confucious say: He who Boom Boom pimp today get no Boom Boom tonight.
dasmi
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For anyone who is interested, I just emailed a trusted pastor friend of mine, who happens to read and speak greek, hebrew, and aramaic. The word in the commandment is murder. Specifically,
NineseveN
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The sheer level of ignorance that thorn726 has introduced into this thread boggles the noggin. But wait, my opinion doesn't matter, I'm an Atheist and I'm not expected to value human life...so why should I expect others to value my opinion?
P.S.
I'm not really an Atheist, Agnostic without a doubt, er, with a doubt, well without a doubt about the doubt...hell, I don't know, which explains the agnosticism.
It's not nice to stereotype or slur people of different religions, or those without religion at all. Nuff said.
P.S.
I'm not really an Atheist, Agnostic without a doubt, er, with a doubt, well without a doubt about the doubt...hell, I don't know, which explains the agnosticism.
It's not nice to stereotype or slur people of different religions, or those without religion at all. Nuff said.
Working Man
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I'm not Atheist or Agnostic, but that is funny.
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