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Vorticis 45 Suppressor

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by MachIVshooter, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. MachIVshooter

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    My new prototype, which proved to be highly effective. I'd love to show you guys the guts, but for now I think it's best I not post photos of my design that I believe could set the standard for PCC/subgun suppressors, lest more established manufacturers rip me off. Tell me what you think!

     
  2. JeeperCreeper

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    That's crazy cool!
     
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    I like it, no internal specs required! This may change my plans for my carbines.
     
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    Since I apparently just learned to read (put this in the wrong thread initially) what price were you considering for this can?
     
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    I'm not sure yet. This is prototype 1, and it has a particularly tricky part inside. I also need to decide if I'll option it with QD type bases and boosters vs. direct thread, or just make them all multi-mount. Direct thread is much easier and would be cheaper, but I don't want to catch a bad rap down the road for my can being inflexible just because folks chose the DT option to save a couple hundred at time of purchase. This thing has the potential to be a universal type suppressor like the SiCo Hybrid, only better, but I still need to do testing with more developed prototypes before I market it that way.

    It will probably end up in the $700-$900 range, though.
     
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    Is this can user-serviceable like the rest?
     
  7. Gtscotty

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    Very nice, can it handle higher pressure carbine rounds like .44 Mag and 450 Bushmaster?

    It seems like the 1.375"x24 Omega adapter thread has become a standard for rifle cans with Dead Air, Q, YHM and Diversified Machine all offering adapters to fit a variety of different muzzle devices. Any chance you'll offer your cans with that thread? It's a strong selling point to some folks to have all those options.
     
  8. MachIVshooter

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    No, it's a fully welded core.

    Yes, although I can't yet say what it will sound like with them. It wasn't fantastic with 5.56mm, much like the Hybrid or other large bore cans don't do a great job suppressing high velocity small bore rounds. I was OK without ear pro out behind my house, but it was teetering on uncomfortable out of the 16" carbine.

    I'll investigate that possibility.
     
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  9. DMK

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    This sounds interesting. How would you compare this on a carbine, sound and quietness wise to your Phoenix IX, an Obsidian 9 or Osprey?

    On a blowback carbine, what are you thoughts on barrel length with this suppressor? ie. 4" vs 8" or 10" vs 16"?

    Will you do a 9mm version?

    Any ideas about when you might be ready to sell these?
     
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  10. MachIVshooter

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    Muzzle report is similar. It's the reduced port noise which sets it apart.

    Shouldn't make much difference. If anything, probaby more effective on shorter barrels, given that they'll vent gas into the can earlier in the bolt cycle. Longer barrels have lower uncorking pressure with a given round, but the duration for which the bore is pressurized is longer. On gas operated guns, the gas system is calibrated according to barrel length for proper unlock time, but on a straight blowback, there's almost no difference. Breech opening timing and bolt velocity are determined by bolt weight and duration of accelerating forces.

    I certainly can do a 9mm variant, but I don't think there'd be an appreciable difference in noise.

    I don't know when I'll call this one ready for market. Much more testing to do.
     
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    Thanks!

    As I said in the other thread, I'm trying to determine the quietest components for a really compact 9mm AR pistol/SBR. I'll be watching your work on this with great interest. :)
     
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