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Wal-Mart guns

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Lou1187, Aug 7, 2007.

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  1. Lou1187

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    I have been concidering a Remington 700 BDL 30-06 with a walnut stock. I looked at Basspro, Cablea's and Wal-Mart. However, a buddy of mine told me that the guns at wal-mart are not the same grade as others like Cabela's and basspro. He stated that all wal-mart guns are crap and not the same, Lower grade. Is this true? I wounld'nt think so but I would like to here what you guys think. Thanks
     
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  2. charlie505

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    quality differences?

    I don't think Remmington makes guns of different quality for wal-mart.

    The guns are the same quality - maybe different models.

    Wal-Marts in NJ - near me - no longer sell guns or ammo :mad:

    The PC police got to them
     
  3. SASS#23149

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    Personally, I doubt that anyone REALLY knows unless they are the buyer for wal mart.How could they? I HAVE herad lots of opinions and guess on the subject tho.
    One thing I've noticed is their guns often have hardwood stocks instead of walnut,which could drop the price ..to them..some.

    Thionking back over many wasted years of internet perusal,I"ve never read a post of how badly some ones Wally world gun shoots.LOTS of complaints of how long and frustraing a process buying a gun from them can be.Myslef included.

    since almost all wally's are dumping guns now,I'd buy elsewhere just to feel good about supporting a pro 2a business.
    ymmv,imho,etc.
     
  4. rc109a

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    My husband bought his first shotgun at Walmart and absolutely loves it. I think there is no difference in quality and firearms WERE always cheaper there. I say were because the four in our area no longer sell firearms of any kind only ammo.
     
  6. RNB65

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    My Dad has a Rem 700 he bought from Wally World. It looks and operates like any other Rem 700 I've ever seen.

    If anyone asks where you bought it, LIE! :cool:
     
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  7. goemado

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    Your buddy is wrong. A Remington 700 BDL is a Remington 700 BDL - Walmart just buys truck loads of 'em....Remington does nothing different to the product going to Walmart than it does to the product going to the *insert finest gun store you can think of that stocks Remington 700 BDL's here*.

    Have a nice day.
     
  8. CajunBass

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    Wal-Mart guns are made on the dark side of the moon, out of recycled McDonalds styrofoam boxes, by political prisoners from the delta cetia alpha quadrant.

    Other than that, they're just like any other guns.
     
  9. chieftain

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    Just another of many Anti WalMart myths.

    Some folks, mostly socialists hate success.

    My Winchester 94 AE with a laminated stock, is only 12 years old. It must be defective. It keeps going bang exactly where and when it should. So does my Mossy 590. Sitting here I simply don't remember when I got the Mossy, 93-94. To lazy to get up and look.

    Go figure

    Fred
     
  10. MechAg94

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    What WalMart guns? The WalMart here stopped selling them. This ain't an urban Walmart either.
     
  11. Mannlicher

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    I have purchsed a number of guns from Wally World, and they all work just fine.
    That Wal Mart buys inferior guns is a urban myth.
     
  12. Bravo11

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    I just started a thread on this last week. It must be the urban legend dujour.
     
  13. TX1911fan

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    I would say the only difference with Walmart guns is that they probably stock only the lowest grade of gun so their prices can be low. However, you can order just about anything. I ordered a high grade Browning lever .22LR and it is just a beautiful gun. People love to hate Walmart.
     
  14. Nater

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    wal-mart guns in their display case are usually what they call warehouse guns. manufactors send their guns straight to the wal mart warehouse and these are the bulk of the rifles sold. the guns special ordered come lipsey's or sports south (at least wal marts here) and many other major and minor gun shops use them as suppliers. So i could not imagine there being any quality difference between the two. ...........I have never seen a BDL in a display case at wal mart I have seen abunch of ADLs so this leeds me to believe that it would have a special order from a different supplier like lipsey's or sports south. Just a thought though
     
  15. patentmike

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    You got a gun store nearby? When you really need something more technical than ringing up a sale, it might come in handy to have a local gun shop still in business. Depending on where you live, they might even be able to get close to WM in price.
     
  16. birddog

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    This topic has been beaten stomped and rendered many times on THR. There's no difference. There are some people that you'll never convince otherwise. Just ask me. I've bought rifles and shotguns at WalMart. They're just as good as their counterparts in gun stores...except that they stop working after 427 rounds and the manufacturers refuse to honor the warranties, knowing that they sent their "seconds" to WalMart and they are probably beyond repair, heh heh.

    :evil:
     
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    Actually, there are some differences.

    I was at a local shop. Guy brings in an 870 that he wants to sell. Owner looks at it for a few seconds and says "see you bought it at Wal-Mart". Guy kinda stammers and says "yeah". Shop owner hands it back and says he's not interested.

    He told me what the difference is, but I don't remember right now. Trigger guard maybe. I can tell you for certain that he knows if an 870 is Wal-Mart or not. He claims that Wal-Mart guns are not as well finished and might cause problems. Whatever the reason, he didn't want it.

    This may or may not apply to all guns. I've heard that Remington made a special huge run for Wal-Mart maybe a few years ago. Supposedly Wal-Mart didn't sell them all and just about bankrupt Remington when they returned the unsold inventory.
     
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    I once compared my police issue Remington 870 to my Wal-mart 870 and I honestly couldn't tell any difference in any of the pieces. I don't believe he can "glance" at a gun and KNOW it came from Wal-Mart. Besides, why would a gun company want to sell their crap to a company that will sell hundreds/thousands more of them than the local gun shop that sells a couple a year?

    Also, the Wal-Mart 870 is a still made by Remington, and if anything breaks is still under Remingtons warranty, again raising the question of why they would want to put crap out (crap they know they will sell thousands and thousands of).

    While on the subject, does Bass Pro or Cabela's also get the "crap" guns since they sell a bunch of guns, or are these "special guns" only Wal-Mart specific?
     
  19. eliphalet

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    Donja know all Wally's guns are made in China and are copies?

    Nothing is different than the shop down the street except price, or supporting the local businessman or not.
    Some deserve your business some deserve to got out of business.
     
  20. ABTOMAT

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    I'm against Wal-Mart and that type of business practices in general, but as far as I'm concerned it's a myth that companies make identical guns with cheaper parts for them. A maker would have to be running multiple assembly lines for guns with no identifiable differences. If anyone can product proof of this I'd love to hear it.

    What _does_ happen with many products is cheaper, but similar, models will be made for a mass market store. But the model numbers are always different. Like Lincoln makes a range of welders with a digit changed for Home Depot. But unless Remington is making "871" shotguns for Wal-Mart I doubt there's any difference.
     
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    I buy more guns from the local boys than Wal-Mart. I also buy guns from Wal-Mart. I believe in supporting everyone on our side.

    Besides if we stopped buying guns from Wally world for ??? reasons, they would stop carrying them. Gosh! in stores with low guns sales they have.

    I wonder why?

    I support the shops that carry the product I want, at reasonable prices. They don't have to beat Wally. But they do have to be reasonable.

    Wally world is as justified for my business if they have the products I want, as any other fellow.

    Only a fool would spend substantially more from one store than another, for no reason at all. But I guess that's why we have Fords, Chevy's and Toyota's. There is a reason Toyota is overtaking everyone. They make products customers want to buy at prices they want to buy them at.

    Very radical concept. by the way, I own no Toyota's.

    I find the Gun shops that charge reasonable prices and give good service tend to do just fine. It is generally the rip off gun dealers that really hate wally world.

    Go figure.

    And just what business practice is that. Giving the buying public good products at prices they prefer. BASTARDS!

    They don't raise prices if they don't have competition either. they are open when I want to shop.

    They ain't perfect, but then who is.

    go figure.

    Fred
     
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    I got a buck folding knife from wally world. The MSRP is like $95 or something, now I know MSRP is usually a bit higher than the real price, but this one was only $45. Also, it has machine marks on it unlike the pictures of it on the website.

    My dad says they sell lower quality guns, and I trust him. It may be true, it may be false, but I also beleive in supporting my local gunshop. Well its somewhat local.
     
  23. .cheese.

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    Yes, Walmart guns ARE different.

    For example, a Remingston 870 Express would ordinarily be manufactured at Remington's factory. Not the case with the Walmart version.

    You see, Walmart has large manufacturing deals with a few select companies. One of the biggest happens to be Kraft foods. Due to that, Remington 870s are actually manufactured at the Kraft foods factory, next to the macaroni and cheese. Meanwhile, the Keebler factory makes all of Walmart's WWB ammo.

    That's the basic idea. The Kraft people are decent actually.... but the Keebler guys just shove chocolate and a primer in brass...... bastards.
     
  24. ABTOMAT

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    Mainly leveraging supplying manufacturers into making junk, moving offshore, or going out of business. When a large retailer gets a huge contract with a supplier to buy the majority of their production, the retailer has a good deal of influence over the supplier. They then dictate the price point, sometimes to the point where the supplier has to drastically change the way things are done. Snapper lawnmowers refused to deal with Wal-Mart because they wanted them to outsource or reduce standards to meet the proposed unit cost.

    Large box stores also have a way of taking over small towns or areas. It's part of the plan. If you make yourself a large enough player in a given locale, you can get a good percentage of the population both working for you and buying from you. It's perpetual profit.

    The public will always prefer lower prices. Nowdays consumers don't pay attention to the quality of most things so whoever sells it cheapest wins. The manufacturing capability of the United States has been dissasembled and moved to China, literally, to meet that goal. There are products this country can no longer make because the tools and manpower no longer exist in our hands.
     
  25. chieftain

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    Your example of Snapper sort of disproves the rest of your statement. You mean the suppliers feel they must go off shore. As to quality, I have seen a lot of junk from every country.

    For a gun example. Norinco 1911 or Highpoint 45. Frankly the Chinese pistol is hands down better quality than the American Highpoint.

    And once more, let's beat up Wally World for getting suppliers to lower their prices, AND pass that on to the consumer.

    I guess you prefer suppliers making more money, and the consumer paying more.

    Must be an economics major.

    And how do they do that. Force everyone to buy by holding their first born hostage. Nope! Good products at fair prices.

    As to perpetual profit. The socialists of all stripes have believed that for years. Not economist would, but a socialist would.

    Actually, the public always prefers better values. That is why most folks don't buy the cheapest car, house etc. Otherwise at the various counters EVEN in Wally World they would offer only the Cheapest. Nope that myth don't fly here.

    Wally World didn't disassemble the manufacturing capability of the United States. You and I did. We the consumer.

    Want to pay more and get less. Go for it. I choose to be rational. Every product has it's price point. That comes from you and I, not the manufacturer, or the retailer.

    Just admit you don't like Wal-Mart. It's okay you don't have to like anything or body for any reason, just don't try to rationalize the irrational, to me.

    Go figure.

    Fred
     
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