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Walmart labeling their ammo as only be for sale by Walmart

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Warp, Aug 28, 2013.

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  1. herrwalther

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    I don't see how that is in any way enforceable, legally. When you buy something that becomes your property. The ammo would no longer be the owner of the ammo, so if you wanted to sell it, there is no legal recourse in selling it privately. Every gun store I know of won't take ammo that didn't come from them anyway so this is probably more of an intimidation factor.
     
  2. Ridgerunner665

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    As far as what is Walmart going to do to somebody caught reselling ammo...

    I don't pretend to know, but this I do know....its never a good idea for ANYBODY to cross an entity with the clout that Walmart has...they could come at you from directions you'd never even dreamed of, and with an unlimited budget.
     
  3. tarosean

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    Im guessing its to cover their behind in states that have laws against individuals selling ammunition or the requirements of cards, etc.
     
  4. X-Rap

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    If I were in Gunisson Colorado tomorrow morning at about 7am and wanted some 22, 9mm and 223 I'd be standing in line if there is one.
    Just sayin
     
  5. tarosean

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    This isnt a set of pots and pans.. Like it or not Ammunition is federally regulated. Some States and local jurisdictions also have their own laws concerning the sale or manufacturing of it.
     
  6. Black Butte

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    Other than Walmart's own employees pilfering ammo, once somebody buys it, they're entitled to turn around and sell it for whatever somebody is willing to pay.
     
  7. Fryerpower

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    This really could be for THREE reasons. The first & second have been stated many times already; to discourage flipping & protect their image. The third could be that they are having a serious pilferage/employee holdback issue. The phone number might allow them to identify where the ammo is going.

    Good luck to them. I hope it is not just for show.

    Jim
     
  8. Midwest

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    ^^^^
    Same here
     
  9. statelineblues

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    Yes, there is - reselling stolen/shoplifted items is a billion dollar industry.
    Ask any Asset Protection agent working in retail today - health care items, baby formula and diapers, electronics, laundry detergent... anything a store sells.

    But as for the stickers - it's not going to stop the ammo flippers, but at least at the next gun show you can offer to take a box off their hands for cost... :neener:
     
  10. btg3

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    Yadda... yadda. So I tried to call the number, but not open until 7am CDT.
     
  11. Sam1911

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    All it can really do is potentially embarrass folks reselling the ammo. There have been plenty of local shops who (reportedly) sent their employees down to WM to buy ammo to put out on their own shelves when WM could get it and they couldn't. Nothing wrong with that (or with charging a markup) but it helps WM's image with a lot of folks if it looks like the company "cares."

    "We're trying to protect your ability to buy at our low prices..." or something along those lines. That sort of thing really appeals to certain folks who feel there is a price which things "should" cost, and that they have something akin to a "right" to that product at that price.
     
  12. AirForceShooter

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    Wal-Mart has ammo?

    AFS
     
  13. bannockburn

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    Was just at Walmart yesterday and while they did finally have 9mm. and .45ACP ammo in stock there were no stickers on any of the boxes.
     
  14. beatledog7

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    So is cookware.

    http://cookware.org/standards_compliance.php

    Everything is federally regulated. We have no freedom.

    As for these stickers, I can't imagine what legal recourse Walmart would have. It appears to me they simply decided to post a sort of warning to the uninformed to try to discourage flipping. Not that "corporate" Walmart really cares about it. I suspect HQ got pressured by their store managers, based on customer complaints, to take action against flippers.

    And supplying these stickers is what Walmart calls action.
     
  15. Hanzo581

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    I think it is obvious and been said plenty there is no legal way to stop someone from buying something at Walmart and reselling it. But whoever said they would just print a list of shops that are reselling to show consumers why their shelves are bare has a very good point.

    If I knew of a local gun shop that was buying from Walmart and selling in their shop for a large markup I sure as hell wouldn't shop there and I'd tell them why.
     
  16. beatledog7

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    Walmart has a mechanism for legit sale of items to those who plan to resell it at retail.

    It's called Sam's Club. A retailer files certain forms (exactly which ones I don't recall) and is added to a database of authorized tax-exempt resellers. It can now go to Sam's and buy stuff without paying sales tax, because it agrees to collect that tax from its own customers when the items are resold.

    Of course, ammo flippers are not doing this. If retailers are buying up Walmart ammo and reselling it from their shelves, the state (assuming it's a state that has a sales tax) is getting paid twice.
     
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    They can't do anything to the flippers but they can do something about their own employees who might be on the take or not following the 3 box per day rule.
     
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    Lets look at this. Say I've got some of this ammo on a table at a gun show and you come in. You see the stickers , call the number and get stupid which you will given your post here. So what right do you have to take food from the mouths of my children.What right to you have to stop me from raising money to put my grandchildren through college. You going to pay those costs for them. Thought not. Its best not to interfer with another persons legal business. It can become quite costly for any individual interfering with a legal business.

    You know if you don't like some guy or gal reselling ammo from walmart or from anywhere else then don't buy it. I mean lets be honest here. You're upset that someone has ammo and you don't. You are upset that they saw an opportunity and seized it and you didn't. Instead of putting the time and effort in to secure ammo, they call that work, you sit at home/work and complain in online forums about others who saw the opportunity,seized it and profitted from it. That's how the world works.

    For the life of me I don't understand how people can attack others for seizing an opportunity and generating income for themselves and families. I just don't understand it. I guess we have raised a generation of lazy,self centered, whining adult children.
     
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    And the State is going to be upset about that. Don't think so. As long as they get their cut, sales tax, they are happy., BTW Sams Club doesn't have ammo, at least those in my area don't carry it.
     
  20. rodinal220

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    "How enforceable are those labels?"


    Enforce what??????????????? Walmart Ammo Trade Act 0f 2013??? Last time I checked only Congress makes laws at the national level. Is Walmart now part of DHS and have a special police force to regulate ammo sales?

    Beware the Walmartian Police!!
     
  21. Schwing

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    I am sure that Walmart could care less about flippers. I would bet this has something to do with internal problems they are probably having with stuff manufactured FOR their stores that has been ending up in other places. You have to figure that merchandise changes hands many times between the factory and the store and it might just be that some of their stuff is not ending up where it is supposed to be going.

    Many modern day shoplifting/illegal merchandise rings are very organized. Some of them have been found to use people from all levels of the supply chain from the factory, to trucking to employees in the stores. If I was running such an operation, ammo would very definitely be a sought after item since it is virtually guaranteed to have a buyer on the other end and a huge profit margin (especially with all of the suckers out there willing to spend $60+ for a brick of .22 or $40 for a box of 9MM).
     
  22. mdauben

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    Since the stickers are legally meaningless and are highly unlikely to actually bother flippers or resellers, my guess is its a bone thrown to the customers who complain about Walmart not having any ammo left for "regular" customers after the flippers and insiders alledgely buy it all up.
     
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    This is basically it, it is a feel good thing for Walmart. But it just may scare off those dumb enough to think they might get in trouble for reselling ammo. And I am fine with that.
     
  24. wally

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    Grate idea to help identify the "flippers" so people can wise up and stop buying from them!

    Sure there is no legal meaning to it, but its better than doing nothing.
     
  25. ColtPythonElite

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    Just got back from my Walmart. No stickers, yet.

    Now, they have a dry erase board up showing what ammo they will have the next day, the quantity, price, and time they will bring it out.
     
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