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Walther Bringing Back the 'PP' in 380ACP & 32ACP!

Ethan Verity

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Pretty cool! Looks like Walther is bringing back the 'PP' model in 380ACP and 32ACP, in their stainless and black finish!

Makes sense, since they are already making the 'PP' frame for the PPK/S model. All that needs done extra is machining a longer slide and barrel.

What I don't understand is at the 3:10 mark in this video, where he says they added a magazine disconnect "safety" to this model? Ummm... WHAT?
HOWEVER,... at 12:07 onward in the video, he pulls the trigger multiple times with no magazine in the gun... so, that's obviously (thankfully) not correct.
 
In the highly unlikely event that they reintroduce a PP Super (9x18 Ultra) variant, well, they’ll definitely have my attention & shortly thereafter, my $s too.
 
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They are now showing on Walther's website:
 
I'm fond enough of my .380 and .32 Fort Smith PPKs that I'll probably buy one of the new PPs. Not sure which caliber, maybe both.
 
I had a Walther model PP, as well as a P4, about 35 years ago. Those guns were great historic collectibles. Unfortunately, the model PP does not compare favorably against today's crop of pocket pistols.
Please expand on that. Not disagreeing. Asking. I had a PPKs and thought it was pretty good.
 
I used a 7.65mm PP many years ago. An accurate pistol and easy to shoot and carry.

There's a YouTube "review" posted of the new version, in .380 ACP. Walther Arms had the opportunity to improve the hideous DA pull on the new manufacture PP and PPK, but they doubled down and made it even heaver. Perhaps this has something to do with positive operation of the hammerblock. But nonetheless, the DA pull - your first shot in a hurry - is just really awful.
 
Please expand on that. Not disagreeing. Asking. I had a PPKs and thought it was pretty good.

My brother has a PPK/s... it's a cool gun that I don't like to shoot. It's heavy (yes, because it's steel,) it's snappy (yes, because it's straight blowback,) and has some features I don't care for (slide mounted safety, heavy DA/SA trigger.)

Many of the modern pistols are locked breech. Shooting my brother's PPK/s next to my Colt Government .380... is night and day. Many of the modern pistols are poly, which may or may not be desirable for any given person, depending on the role it serves. The size of the PP PPK/s is nearly that of a modern, compact 9mm... as is my Colt...

Poly Kahr 9mm on L, Colt's .380 on the right. Nearly the same size, same round count, but the Kahr weighs less.

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Funny story...

My brother's wife started to carry the PPK/s, so I gave him one of my Kahr CW9's in it's stead. His wife shot it once... and now she carries the Kahr, and he's got the PPK/s back!
 
Please expand on that. Not disagreeing. Asking. I had a PPKs and thought it was pretty good.

I loved my .32ACP Model PP due to its style, elegance, and history. Compared to current pocket pistols, even in .380, it is larger, heavier, has no more and usually less capacity, and has near-9mm recoil as a blowback pistol rather than the mild recoil of a locked-breach design. One thing I would favor on the new pistols would be the extended tang because my Model PP was the only pistol that ever left bloody tracks on the back of my hand every time I shot it.
 
It's a pistol from the 1930's. Of course there are pistols now that are more advanced.

It will still go bang and put a hole in someone, if that's what you want.

I don't think most people are buying it for that, though.

Kind of more like a "collectible".

I have a few knockoffs that shoot just fine.

They aren't near the top of my SD handgun list, but would do the job if called upon.

(The 32 is fun to shoot. The 380's may pinch you a bit.)




 
Lost a mint German PP in box to a typical story of my cousin's wife took my money and pawned the PP for $200!

Blood thicker than water, I’m over it
 
Tallball, your SIG P230/.32 is indeed pleasant to shoot; most blowback .380s are not.
It is my understanding that the heavier slide of the PP is more pleasant to shoot than the lighter PPK length.
Personally a fan of .32 ACP pistols of virtually any stripe.
Moon
 
FWIW, for those of you who might see some of the obscure knockoffs for sale...

The Sig 230 is very pretty and feels great in the hand. It has an aluminum frame and kicks a bit in 380. I've heard that a few were made in 32, but I've never seen one.

Any PPK in 380 is lively to shoot.

The Makarov is the easiest 380 "Walther" I've shot. It's made of steel and was designed for a slightly more powerful cartridge. The Russian "commercial" ones came to the US in 380acp with an adjustable sight.

The Hungarian surplus PP's in 32acp are a joy to shoot. They have an aluminum frame. Light and nice to handle.

 
I'd love to have a new Walther PP but that near $1000 price would scare me away.

The Sig P230-32-b is indeed a nice shooting pistol, perhaps a bit softer shooting than the PP due to a slightly fuller grip.


A very nice alternative to the PP is the somewhat rare Daewoo DH380. All steel construction, great quality and reliable. It was made in .380 and .22lr.


Another very nice alternative is the Astra Constable which also came in .380 and .22lr.


Our good fortune to have so many fantastic models similar to the fore runner... Walther PP. A beautiful, innovative jewel worth having in anyone's co;;ection.
 
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FWIW, for those of you who might see some of the obscure knockoffs for sale...

The Sig 230 is very pretty and feels great in the hand. It has an aluminum frame and kicks a bit in 380. I've heard that a few were made in 32, but I've never seen one.

Any PPK in 380 is lively to shoot.

The Makarov is the easiest 380 "Walther" I've shot. It's made of steel and was designed for a slightly more powerful cartridge. The Russian "commercial" ones came to the US in 380acp with an adjustable sight.

The Hungarian surplus PP's in 32acp are a joy to shoot. They have an aluminum frame. Light and nice to handle.

I'd love to have a new Walther PP but that near $1000 price would scare me away.

The Sig 230-32-b is indeed a nice shooting pistol, perhaps a bit softer shooting than the PP due to a slightly fuller grip.


A very nice alternative to the PP is the somewhat rare Daewoo DH380. All steel construction, great quality and reliable. It was made in .380 and .22lr.


Another very nice alternative is the Astra Constable which also came in .380 and .22lr.


Our good fortune to have so many fantastic models similar to the fore runner... Walther PP. A beautiful, innovative jewel worth having in anyone's co;;ection.
you guys are good shots!!!
 
The only Walther PP that I have owned was a WWII model that was probably retained in East Germany and was import marked. A good friend wanted it more than I did. Yet, my appreciation for 7.65mm remains strong. Below are some of the harder to find 32’s that I am thankful to have purchased.

CZ83 - Bersa/ Firestorm - H&K P4
Beretta 81FS - Sig Sauer 230 - prewar PPK

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Walther PPs are cool. I think it’s a good move because this platform is Walther’s 1911. No matter how good or forgettable the rest of their product line is, the PPK is iconic and famous and should always sell steadily if they do their part. And their part includes making bigger models (PP) different calibers, hopefully some upgraded editions with special features etc etc. (Yes I know the PP is the original model technically.) It seems they realize this. For a long time the gun was offered but seemed to be an afterthought.

I have no interest in this one myself because I don’t like the beavertail and am one of 5 people in the whole world apparently who can shoot an original and not get any slide bite. I have my eye out for a 1950s-60s PP in 7.65.

I’m glad I sold my S&W PPK .32 before the new Ft. Smith ones were introduced. I got enough to pretty much trade straight across for a prewar PPK in nice shape. A little lucky but people love the idea of James Bond’s gun in a modern, shootable package.
 
The PP pretty much copied the Pedersen designed Remington 51 in form, but made it double action and simple blowback.

I see the appeal, but if you're a Remington 51 shooter, the PP seems oversprung, unrefined and snappy.
I've had 3 of the Walthers. All gone now.
My 51 ain't goin' anywhere. 😊
 
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