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Walther TPH (American)... Anyone?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by 9x19, Jan 6, 2003.

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  1. 9x19

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    I found one of these languishing in a local shop this morning... Stainless Interarms model, slightly used, with box, papers and one magazine.

    Anyone have any experience with these? The price was right, so I could always go back in the morning. :D

    Thanks in advance...
     
  2. dfariswheel

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    Most of the people I dealt with who owned one were well satisfied.
    They do seem to be sensitive to ammo, so you would need to shoot a wide variety of brands and types to find out what it "likes".

    Quality on the few I worked on was very good.
     
  3. Al Thompson

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    I've known one happy customer and several un-happy ones. Seems like when they work, they work well, when they don't, they really don't.

    Feel free to update me, but I'm under the impression that there is no service available for the TPH if it's a dud.
     
  4. Mr Jody Hudson

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    I have had about a dozen in blue and stainless over the last many years that they have been available here.

    They like Stingers, QuikShoks, Velocitors, etc. The most powerful and fastest .22s are usually the best. When you find the one it likes, usually Stinger, it can be incredibly accurate.

    They do tend to need some smithing, sometimes more than once, to become totally reliable. Each one tends to like a different ammo for reliability as well.

    However, with practice you can plan on out shooting most Ruger pistols as far as accuracy!

    There were for years a sort of badge of deep cover operatives of the 007 type and many of them still keep one on them at all times.

    Most problems with them come from trying to use standard velocity ammo instead of high velocity or hyper velocity. My son still has two that prefer Stingers and I still have one that prefers QuikShoks first and Stingers second.
     
  5. Fiveshooter

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    My TPH works great

    :D If the little TPH is held a little too high it can bite the hand. I have a couple of friends that have this problem.
    I have had no problems with mine but if you need parts they are hard to come by. A couple of years ago I got a couple of extra recoil springs and grip screws from Walther USA. I have not tried to order any other parts since but hear they are hard to get.
    The TPH has a high retail price but not too good on the resale so not too hard to find a good deal on a used one.
    The TPH I have seems to be reliable with most ammo I have tried in it.

    Best Regards,
    Billy
     
  6. JiminCA

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    Have a stainless US model. Had a broken internal part within the first 300 rounds, and it went back to interarms from my dealer and was fixed in about 6 weeks. Since then no trouble.

    I have also discovered that it does like the hot rounds, as noted above. Also, you need to use a thin lube as thick stuff can cause malfs. Nothing heavier than BreakFree CLP, and don't glop it on. I use FP10 with success, also BreakFree's LP product.
     
  7. 9x19

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    Thanks folks... will go by tomorrow and see if it's still there...

    K'c', your brother in law has rather odd taste in ammo. :neener:
     
  8. Wildalaska

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    Beware..if it breaks its unfixable...there is no service for those pistols and parts are rarer that hens teeth
     
  9. Zip06

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    Mine is a stainless American model. After two trips back to Interarms it runs real nice. It is the most concealable firearm I have. It is plenty accurate, the sights actually work and as mentioned before its ammo sensitive. I am glad I bought it.
     
  10. Bottom Gun

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    My stainless has always done well with everything except Federal ammo.
    I've had it about 11 years. I like it.
     
  11. Al Thompson

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    Sadly, interarms is no longer with us.
     
  12. Zip06

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    My understanding is that Smith & Wesson now does all the warrantee work on Walther products. So if you break your TPH they will fix it. Anyone know if they are going to start making the TPH again?
     
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    S&W does not warranty the Interarms guns and does not service them, nor does Earls...
     
  14. Zip06

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    Wildalaska - That is very bad news. I knew that Earl's was only concerned with German manufactued Walthers but did not know that when Interarms went belly up they left us holding the bag.
     
  15. Pocket Pistol

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    Well S&W does not handle them any more.
    WHere can you get parts like springs and such.
     
  16. Tamara

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    I know more than one 'smith who swears that TPH stands for "Toilet Paper Handgun", a reference to the, um, less-than-stellar durability of the Interarms ones.

    They sho' 'nuff are cute, though. I'd get one for plinking/collecting if I found a great deal, simply for the novelty factor. No way would I ever trust it as a gun, though; I've seen too many bad ones. :uhoh:
     
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    I have used Roger Perry and he's done a fine job. He has an FFL and does a fastidious job of everything he does. I have no idea how he found the parts but he did.

    You can reach him 302-856-9809
     
  18. 9x19

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    I now have about 700 rounds thru the used one I bought (see above) and it has been flawless so far.

    Good little gun, Tam's' statements make it that much more special, since I have one of the good ones... :D
     
  19. Tamara

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    9x19,

    A pearl of great price is a thing to be proud of! ;)
     
  20. Pocket Pistol

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    Mr Jody Hudson -
    Hey thanks, forgot I ask here and forgot to check back :banghead:

    Does Roger Perry have a www site ?
    Any more info, I have not heard of him yet.

    I did find one last week at a good price.
    it is an early one T0021xx stainless.
    has a small problem with the release piece or trigger bar and someone played with cleaning up dry fire marks on the barrel.

    I think it is an easy fix if I can get parts.

    All the other parts I have heard problems with are great so once I get the bugs worked out I think it will be great.
     
  21. firestar

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    Come on now! Let's not go overboard! I wouldn't be surprised if it was pretty accurate but I REALLY doubt that one will shoot as good as a Ruger MKII or 22/45.

    My Bersa 23 will shoot really tight groups but not quite what a average off the shelf Ruger will do and the Bersa is a loose copy of the Walther.
     
  22. Mr Jody Hudson

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    I am not aware of a web site by Roger.

    CW4 Roger Perry, is the top person I think(acting commanding officer?) of our local National Guard training facility, a rather large facility, and has been quite acitive in some "special projects" for the White House recently. He has held the position for many years and is a well regarded member of the military and civilian community.

    I have had several guns fixed or upgraded by him over the years and he is the gunsmith of choice for several of the local gun shops in this area. Once he retires, he will be a full time gunsmith, but he does get the job done in a timely manner and he IS somehow capable of finding the unfindable in parts! At least he has been for me.

    Give him a call. He is good. He is not a national figure, just a good and professional gunsmith.

    And, if the shooter is capable of accuracy, the TPH is quite capable of out shooting most, far larger, .22 pistols. It HAS outshot all of the recently purchased (and sold) Ruger pistols I've had. Older Ruger pistols are another thing entirely. That is my experience. Your experience may differ of course.

    The TPH does, however, require highest velocity ammo to work best.
     
  23. Pocket Pistol

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    Thanks jody -
    I will give him a call :)
     
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    Mr Jody Hudson -
    Got hold of Roger and sounds like a great guy.
    Sent mine off yesterday.
    He said he just finished one of yours. How is it ?

    I will let you know how mine does in 2-3 weeks, CAN'T WAIT :)
     
  25. Mr Jody Hudson

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    I have been too busy to fire mine. However, when he showed me and told me what he had done... I KNOW it is fixed. I wish I still had MORE TPHs to get done by him.

    The TPH is "potentially" one of the finest .22 pistols around, including those three times it's size. However that pontential is USUALLY not true in FACT until the little pistol has been worked on. The things Roger does to get them to work, the way they should have worked in the first place, puts them at the very top of the list. Once fixed, these little pistols are Target Quality -- if we do our part!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to shoot it again.

    If you ever have failures to fire ANY ammo with yours, ask Roger if he needs to do, to yours, what he did to mine, in order to make it hit the cartridge harder with the fireing pin.

    :D
     
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