Of all the rifles ever made, those are the only 2 I'd NEVER suggest any one ever buy.
Look at the Stevens 200, or Marlin in the same price range and have a MUCH better gun than either of those. For just a little more the Weatherby Vanguards are selling at many places for around $350. You can often find Remington 700 ADL's for the same price. There are much better choices on used racks.
Look at the Stevens 200, or Marlin in the same price range and have a MUCH better gun than either of those. For just a little more the Weatherby Vanguards are selling at many places for around $350. You can often find Remington 700 ADL's for the same price. There are much better choices on used racks.