Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by torpid, Nov 10, 2005.
Now THAT must have been fun to set up!
Where's the coffee maker and the fuzzy dice?
You might need a stronger bipod to support all that......
Now that's weight training that I can get behind! Cheek weld might be a bit of an issue......
There IS an AR under there somewhere, right?
Here's my weird gun. A Cobray Pocket Pal. It is a revolver with interchangeable cylinders. It can either fire five rounds of .22 or 3 rounds of .380. It's a very crude little gun. I've never shot it.
I made up a website about it where more info can be found:
Now that's a forward thinking design. I can't think of any other gunmaker that's started putting annoying warnings on the trigger already. I wonder when we'll start seeing dire warnings etched into the sear and hammer.
That's actually a pretty cool little piece of gear. Hey, somebody has to hold down the far end of the price-spectrum. At least they showed creativity in doing so. Have you still not shot it?
No, I have not shot it and don't really plan to. The metal is scary looking. I might consider shooting some really weak .22s some day, but I doubt I'll ever be brave enought to shoot .380s out of it. I like me fingers where they are.
Looking at it, I would suggest caps.
Here is one from the firearms Museum in Cody.
Holy crud! You have a giant head!
The Retarded Guns of Imperial Japan (Part 1)
This thread has been a lot of fun, so I decided to do a themed update to this thread to keep it going. We'll be looking at some of the weird and improbable guns made by Imperial Japan before and during WW2.
Type A and Type 14 Nambu Pistols
The Nambu pistol was designed by Major Kijiro Nambu and is loosely based on the Luger, although it had a unique and completely different action. An allegedly improved version, the Type 14, enlargened the trigger guard, dispensed with the grip safety and the useless adjustable sight, and added a magazine retention spring to prevent the magazine from falling out so much. Unfortunately in the process the grip design was simplified with the result of making it one of the ugliest and least ergonomic pistols ever.
The Nambu fired a bottlenecked yet surprisingly anemic 8mm cartridge that was far inferior to the 9x19.
8x22mm Nambu next to 9x19mm:
Type 94 Pistol
In addition to being even more ferociously ugly than its predecessor the Type 14, this pistol has become famous for being the probably the most unsafe automatic pistol ever issued. The Type 94 had its sear exposed on the left side of the frame, and would fire with moderate pressure applied to it. This execrable pistol was also designed by the now-General Kijiro Nambu and is sometimes referred to by that name.
Type 97 20mm Anti-Tank Rifle
Weighing in at an enormous 120 pounds, like other antitank rifles the Type 97 was designed to give infantry the capability of destroying armored vehicles. Unlike other antitank rifles, the Type 97 was a fully automatic autocannon with a 7 round box magazine. The Type 97 was so heavy it had to be carried by four men with a set of crossbar handles and incredibly the 20mm shell it fired was so inadequate that at 200 meters it could pierce only 13mm of armor.
To be continued...
Weird, or so weird it's classic?
Actually this is weird: my KISS gun (Keep It Simple 'n' Sweet)
Weird because there are no tacti-cool add-ons at all.
The Retarded Guns of Imperial Japan (Part 2)
Arisaka Type 99 Rifle
The Arisaka Type 99 rifle was a development of the earlier Type 38 carbine. The major difference between the rifles was a change from a 6.5mm cartridge to 7.7mm. This change necessitated an increase in both length (10") and weight (1.3 lbs) to offset the increased recoil. The Type 99 was not a bad rifle in itself, although the increased length was a hindrance in jungle fighting, and changing calibers in the middle of a war caused logistics problems.
Arisaka Type 99 Rifle:
What's unique about the Type 99 is the weird and useless features that were added to it. First there is a monopod:
Type 99 with monopod extended:
Unlike a bipod such as on a Galil or StG-58, this monopod was completely useless. Not only does the monopod not provide a stable rest, but the wire used was very long and flexible and it would have been impossible to hold a target with it. It was common practice among Japanese soldiers to remove and discard the monopod as soon as possible.
The other weird feature of the Type 99 was its sights. They were graduated out to 1500m, optimistic certainly but typical for its period, and they also included fold-down antiaircraft sights.
Type 99 AA sights:
If the 1500m setting on the sights is optimistic, the AA sights are wishful thinking. Needless to say there is no record of the rifle ever bringing down an Allied aircraft.
Nambu Type II Machine Pistol
Part of Kijiro Nambu's ongoing war on aesthetics, these machine pistols were intended to fill the need within the Imperial Japanese Army for a decent submachine gun and replace the hodgepodge of captured foreign subguns being used in the Navy.
This design was tested in 1937 by the Army and was rejected due to numerous design flaws, although it was in fact procured by both Navy and Army units and used in the war in China.
After failing to get the Type 100 SMG to work well enough, in 1944 the Army turned to Nambu in desperation. He resurrected the Type IIA design and made several changes, resulting in the Type IIB design which was purchased by the Army. The Type IIB design, designated "Bullpup" by allied forces, had a very unusual appearance mostly because its trigger was inside the body of the stock and because of its pronouncedly overhanging receiver. This was probably because it was made using extra Arisaka stock blanks.
P.S. I fixed the images in Part 1. Not sure what happened to them.
You people are sick, sick, sick.
Kubricks 'Clockwork Orange'
would have benefitted from these.
Thanks. i needed that.
THR is alive & well.
heh... if you get a chance, actually try sighting with the AA sights on a Type 99. Messes with your mind!
Is that an airsoft rifle???
i like these...
Image explodes mind.
Here's the M41 Johnson. Is that what you mean?
We were talking about that gun/paper airplane from the movie Aliens, but the M41 Johnson is pretty cool too It's a shame the Army passed on his designs.
the decked out AR is what happens when surefire's engineer PAul Kim,had some time on his hands an a few bolt on accessories
he's now making light sabers:
Ever see the Barret 50bmg Shoulder launched rifle?
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