gc70
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Any idiot that wants to speak up should be allowed to. In any free exchange of ideas, the wack jobs will always come out looking bad.
Ward Churchill and Murdering US Officers
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Academics like Ward Churchill squeal like little girls when called to account for their words. I'm not talking censorship or prosecution for treason, I am talking about mere criticism.
They reside in a responsibility-free and consequence-free zone and when someone outside their echo chamber has the audacity to take issue with their words, the tenured radicals cry and moan about "repression" and "censorship."
Ward Churchill is a vile marxist, unpatriotic buffoon, and plagiarizing hack.
This is not the first time a lefty has voiced such sentiments. Wat a nice bunch of tolerant folks.
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They reside in a responsibility-free and consequence-free zone and when someone outside their echo chamber has the audacity to take issue with their words, the tenured radicals cry and moan about "repression" and "censorship."
Ward Churchill is a vile marxist, unpatriotic buffoon, and plagiarizing hack.
This is not the first time a lefty has voiced such sentiments. Wat a nice bunch of tolerant folks.
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Vern Humphrey
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In any discussion with these wackos, they'll eventually try to counter criticism by saying "I have a right to freedom of speech" -- as if the rest of us don't!
Nick Bacon, a Medal of Honor winner, had a neat counter to that:
Wacko, "I have a right to freedom of speech!"
Nick, "I know. I earned it for you."
Mongo the Mutterer
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Maybe if we exercised our "freedom of expression" non-verbally with these slimeballs.
No, they are too small to spit on and too slimy to step on. I say let old Ward rant on. With every word he brings down academia. I hope the university's enrollment takes a hit, their endowments take a hit, and the taxpayers of Colorado make sure their budget takes a hit.
Money talks, BS walks. I would expect the W.C. BS to walk quickly once the purse pinches.
No, they are too small to spit on and too slimy to step on. I say let old Ward rant on. With every word he brings down academia. I hope the university's enrollment takes a hit, their endowments take a hit, and the taxpayers of Colorado make sure their budget takes a hit.
Money talks, BS walks. I would expect the W.C. BS to walk quickly once the purse pinches.
Freedom of speech doesn't cover plagarism. Tenure is for professors who maintain a basic level of acedemic integrity. Churchill has failed on both accounts.
The saddest part is that Churchill hates white Americans, yet he is what he hates.
Also, he has received numerous death threats and his car has been vandalized with spray painted swastikas.
The saddest part is that Churchill hates white Americans, yet he is what he hates.
Also, he has received numerous death threats and his car has been vandalized with spray painted swastikas.
odysseus
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Churchill's momma needs to come out slap him across the face, and drag him by the ear back home, while saying "Churchill's sorry and he has been a bad boy."
He's an ass.
But then free speech also protects, to some degree, this sort of blabbering from someone who's elevator cannot reach the top floor.
All be it though I think he is seriously close to getting himself in serious trouble with a lot of people. It's too bad the sheep aren't disliking the smell of sheep crap enough.
He's an ass.
But then free speech also protects, to some degree, this sort of blabbering from someone who's elevator cannot reach the top floor.
All be it though I think he is seriously close to getting himself in serious trouble with a lot of people. It's too bad the sheep aren't disliking the smell of sheep crap enough.
Vern Humphrey
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We should do three things:
1. Exercise our freedom of speech to say what we think of slimballs like this. Our target adudience is not, of course the slimeballs themselves, but persons who hear them. Don't allow the slimeballs to pretend they have silenced all opposition, nor that we have nothing cogent to say in regard to their nastiness.
2. Exercise our economic freedoms to direct our money to other colleges, products, and so on, and away from those associated with these slimeballs.
3. Make careful note of who agrees with or defends these slimeballs -- much as a soldier studies enemy uniforms and equipment so he can identify it later.
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Henry Bowman
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TGI, your dissenting, minority view is noted. It's nice that we know where you stand. You stand alone.
The Grand Inquisitor
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Well, I'm glad everyone has villified me now.
I'm not going to try to rebut any of the ad hominem attacks here, and since that is most of them, this will be fairly short.
I don't know all that much about Churchill save a few articles, but some of the pictures I have seen of his speaking engagements he has banners of the tribes up (besides the one already mentioned her eI think he also claims membership in the Creek tribe) and he also has tribe members pull security for him, so he does have some support from the tribes. Also, to the charge that Churchill is "insulated", I just read that he did serve a full tour in Vietnam.
While I haven't seen the plagarism charges fully proved, the best charge the screaming hordes can use against him is that he used his status as a native to gain his position - it is rare - VERY rare for someone without a PhD to be given a faculty position much less a tenured position.
And Henry, if I am standing alone, it will not be the first time, and sometimes standing away from the crowd gives you a better perspective.
I'm not going to try to rebut any of the ad hominem attacks here, and since that is most of them, this will be fairly short.
I don't know all that much about Churchill save a few articles, but some of the pictures I have seen of his speaking engagements he has banners of the tribes up (besides the one already mentioned her eI think he also claims membership in the Creek tribe) and he also has tribe members pull security for him, so he does have some support from the tribes. Also, to the charge that Churchill is "insulated", I just read that he did serve a full tour in Vietnam.
While I haven't seen the plagarism charges fully proved, the best charge the screaming hordes can use against him is that he used his status as a native to gain his position - it is rare - VERY rare for someone without a PhD to be given a faculty position much less a tenured position.
And Henry, if I am standing alone, it will not be the first time, and sometimes standing away from the crowd gives you a better perspective.
Henry Bowman
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Not meant to be an ad hominen attack. Rather your statement:
strongly implies that you support his position that fragging is an honorable action. Your position was attached, not you.
Vern Humphrey
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I was an officer in Viet Nam (for two tours.) Churchill's words are an afront to me and every other man, officer or enlisted, who served honorably.
I refer back to my own post -- when we see people supporting or defending the likes of Churchill, we know what they stand for.
I refer back to my own post -- when we see people supporting or defending the likes of Churchill, we know what they stand for.
Defnding what he said and defending his right to say it are very different. I definately defend his right to say it.
The first amendment wasnt meant to protect statements like "I love puppies and bunny rabbits". It was meant to protect lunatics like Churchill.
The first amendment wasnt meant to protect statements like "I love puppies and bunny rabbits". It was meant to protect lunatics like Churchill.
odysseus
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Inquisitor:
Correct me if I am wrong, but is it not that Churchill's claim of being a Native American is in question? That there is no direct lineage, and that some Native American groups are not happy that he claims he is, and that he has made some statements himself that basically shadow that he may not be?
Correct me if I am wrong, but is it not that Churchill's claim of being a Native American is in question? That there is no direct lineage, and that some Native American groups are not happy that he claims he is, and that he has made some statements himself that basically shadow that he may not be?
Vern Humphrey
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You're absolutely right -- but the First Amendment applies only to GOVERNMENT actions intended to nullify free speech. We, as individual citizens, can exercise our freedom of speech to refute and condemn Churchill's outrageous statements.
NIGHTWATCH
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And the ATF and FBI monitor us?
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I heard his Indian name is "Walking Eagle" because he is so full of sh*t he couldn't possibly fly!
What you have here is your garden variety, talking monkey. A megalomaniac. What scares ME is not the monkey himself but the fact that he has a following!!! We need to raise kids who wouldn't give this donkey the time of day!
He could be fired for disgracing the university in such a way that they could demonstrate a drop in donations etc.
What you have here is your garden variety, talking monkey. A megalomaniac. What scares ME is not the monkey himself but the fact that he has a following!!! We need to raise kids who wouldn't give this donkey the time of day!
He could be fired for disgracing the university in such a way that they could demonstrate a drop in donations etc.
Mongo the Mutterer
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My aren't we superior...
you seem to be a troll on this thread.
cracked butt
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All fine upstanding individuals.
Carnitas
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That fact that he continues to draw breath is all the proof you need of the peaceful nature of gun owners.
The Grand Inquisitor
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Henry - you obviously didn't understand my post.
I think the fact that he is willing to publish photos of himself with an AK and publish his books under AK Press is pretty funny, especially as how it stands against most peoples views of people who would be against gun ownership.
Is this supposed to be a threat?
I think the fact that he is willing to publish photos of himself with an AK and publish his books under AK Press is pretty funny, especially as how it stands against most peoples views of people who would be against gun ownership.
Is this supposed to be a threat?
Art Eatman
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A little more rationality in this thread and a lot less emoting would please me greatly.
Dunno what it is, but L&P folks, lately, seem just really, really off their meds. Way too much emotion over small beer...
Art
Dunno what it is, but L&P folks, lately, seem just really, really off their meds. Way too much emotion over small beer...
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bjbarron
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We NEED people like Ward Churchill to keep talking. We need Kennedy, Pelosi, Boxer, Chomski, and Moore to keep flapping their gums. They represent the progressives in this country...and people need to see that.
Oh, and here is some of Ward's art...plenty more where this came from:
From the '72 book 'Mystic Warrior of the Plains' by Thomas E Mails
Churchills 'original' art...
It's embarrassing, and so is he. And for you who defend him...fine. This ain't the 60s anymore. Back then there were no outlets for criticism of moonbats and they only got positive reinforcement from the media. Now that there are ways to respond in a timely manner, the moonbats hate getting called on what they say.
You can speechify all that you want, but you better expect to take an immediate hit from those who disagree or those who can expose your lies. Churchill is 40 years late...and a role model for nobody.
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