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Warnings about "celebratory gunfire"

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by parsimonious_instead, Dec 31, 2011.

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  1. parsimonious_instead

    parsimonious_instead Member

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    Firing into the air for celebratory or other reasons is just plain wrong, but I don't remember hearing and reading so many warnings about it in years past.
    Anyone else think there's been an uptick in these "warnings?"
     
  2. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    If you think it's okay to shoot into the air, you have a low IQ. No other way about it.
     
  3. Shawn Dodson

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    When I lived in California in the early 90's in remember hearing bullets "whizz" down the street as people fired into the air.

    Outlaw fireworks? Well then some people will fire their guns into the air for noise makers like they do in third world countries.

    The law of unintended consequences.
     
  4. W.E.G.

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    The people who negligently discharge firearms in unsafe directins DO NOT care about your warnings.

    If you get hurt, its just a bonus for them.
     
  5. Strykervet

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    A low IQ, a disregard or ignorance of the most basic elements of ballistics, and finally, negligence with regards to the safety of your neighbors.

    I'd like to thank the morons that are doing right now down the street. They think they are doing it safely by firing it over our homes (you can hear 'em crack overhead from time to time) but they impact in a another populated area down the road!

    Wow, just wow. I'd love to go blow a few off in the backyard, and safely into a berm, we have a little bit of land. But you aren't supposed to around here and I respect that. I can go shoot to my heart's content not all that far away, and I'm member of a range I can go to anytime I want that is literally ten minutes away, if that.

    Please, unless you live somewhere you can safely do it like the sticks of Nebraska or Montana or an area similarly remote and safe, DON'T DO IT! People have died from this all over the US; it happens more often than it should.

    Besides, it would be infinitely more fun at night to shoot can-o-lanterns with tracer rounds, don't you think? And that way you can account for all your impacts. Can-o-lanterns by the way, are coke cans or food cans with holes cut out so you can stick a chem light down inside to illuminate the can to make a glowing target. You can get creative with the designs you cut out, and they are lots of fun, especially when you score a hit on the chem light and have a cardboard "backsplash".

    Just celebrate safely. I like shooting as much, if not more, than the next person, and I'd love to shoot to celebrate, but I refrain out of respect for others, their safety, privacy, and sense of security in their homes.

    Oh yeah, HAPPY NEW YEAR!
     
  6. NavyLCDR

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    Muzzleloader with tissue paper wad instead of a ball.
     
  7. parsimonious_instead

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    I'm not in any way questioning the idiocy of firing into the air, or any other sort of rule 4 violation - I just don't recall so many repeated warnings about it in years past. Just curious if anyone agrees that there's been an uptick.
     
  8. Zoogster

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    Well not watching tv I don't know what warnings you are talking about.

    However I would presume the need is much greater than in past years due to the large number of new shooters. Not only many more firearms are in households now, but many more are in the possession of people that were not part of the shooting community until recently and have limited experience and wisdom concerning firearms.


    Guns have become much more mainstream in recent years, and a lot more ignorant people with limited firearm experience have them. This undoubtedly means a lot more people will be firing them into the air in celebration as TV and movies have taught them to do, before they learn that they shouldn't.
    This also means the risk of death is greater than in the past from lead falling and killing people.
    We will undoubtedly be able to read about people that died from celebratory gunfire tonight over the next week.
     
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  9. bikerdoc

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    Yes it has been upticking here for several years. Not close but close enough to hear.
    Bunch of room temp I Q,s in certain areas.
     
  10. animator

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    As the level of gun ownership rises, so does, unfortunately, the level of asshattedness that some people tend to do with them.


    The few always ruin it for the group.
     
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    When our police chief was on the local news condemning this
    practice one of our African American city council members
    responded that it was cultural practice and he saw no reason
    to heed the police chiefs warning. :uhoh:
     
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    I would much rather have someone load a BP rifle or a shotgun with a non-flameable wad and fire it off into the air, or even "ring the anvil" rather than use fireworks up here where I live. Fireworks up here would everyone in a panic. There are public fireworks on Lake Osoyoos, 1st and 4th of July...that is enough fireworks for me.

    Fire danger is way to high for fireworks...must be why they are banned.

    BTW: No, I have never seen a local warning against celebitory firing of a firearm on the 1st or 4th of July, or New Years.
     
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    Thank God I live in the country. I can shoot the shotgun and not hit any houses as the nearest one is over 700 feet away over a hill. Yippeeee, yahooooo. Happy New year. No I am not drunk!
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    It's not military vets, or NRA members, or members of this forum, or any other responsible and conscientious gun owners who are firing guns in the air.

    It is, however, Third World people who have brought their Third World customs and lack of accountability here with them; or people who, despite having lived here all their lives, nevertheless have a Third World mentality.

    An old friend in NYC recently informed me that the NYPD has been "instructed" to "look the other way" when members of a certain ethnic community in The Bronx (one of the world's most densely-populated areas) decide to emulate the way weddings and other events are celebrated in their native land, by firing AK-47s into the air.

    Anything that the authorities might do to stifle this irresponsible and dangerous practice, you see, would be construed as "bigoted" and "_______-phobic".
     
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    +1 muzzle loader and paper wad....somethings gotta go boom

    Happy New Year 2012
     
  16. 12gaugeTim

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    Straight up in the air? Isn't there this thing called terminal velocity?
     
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    We just had a thread about the Amish girl who got killed 1.5 miles away with a BP rifle....
     
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    The more warnings, the better. The more prosecutions, the better.

    When I lived in the slime pit (Oops, I mean Los Angeles) I spent every January 1st and July 5th for 30 years up on my roof digging out bullets and patching the holes. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who fires in the air deserves the same between the eyes. I'm just glad I don't have to deal with it anymore.
     
  19. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    Shot Spotter systems are good for these events, usually the people doing it I would imagine would be at their house, thus easily caught for the the deed.
     
  20. Bovice

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    There's also a drag coefficient. How much drag do you think a bullet has? That terminal velocity is going to be pretty high.

    I don't think those are up to the task of pinpointing shot locations yet. All they have to do is hide the gun and say "wasn't me!"
     
  21. Zoogster

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    Actually they have installed similar permanent systems through several large cities and it can pinpoint to house location pretty well.


    A couple even make the data publicly available.


    They use microphones placed all around the city to triangulate the sound. Once they learn the specifics of the city and how a few areas bounce sound a little different then adjust the software accordingly the results are quite accurate.


    They do little for violent crime because the shooter was not at their address typically, and they already know where the shooting took place anyways. So investing in the system does little for crime in most cases.
    However it can be used to go after residents firing guns from their residence.

    More attractively they give more control to those that want it. There is a lot of power in knowing immediately wherever any citizen fired a gun.
     
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    A friend of mine on shift at the East Cleveland Fire Dept. took a video on his smart phone last new years eve. It sounded like Mogadishu out there. You could hear the difference in calibers and sounded like there was automatic fire. As long as they thin their own herd...
     
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    The last couple of years, I've spent New Year's at a buddy's place in Oak Cliff, Dallas. Anyone not familiar with the area, let's just say it can be a "rough" area. Every year we sit around a fire pit in the back yard listening to the gun shots, trying to determine calibers, with the occasional fireworks mixed in.


    With a few non-gun people among us, it was fun to point out that those 15 pop-pop-pop sounds you just heard was a full magazine from a 9mm. Heard a lot of .22 and a few .45acp mixed in too.
     
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    Did that just a bit ago with a flintlock pistol :)
     
  25. scaatylobo

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    Not just "plain stupid" but SPECIAL stupid.

    And of course you just know that consumption of drugs and or alcohol are involved.

    "Stupid is,as stupid does" is the quote from Forest Gump = fits this subject all too well.
     
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