Watch your brass
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I shoot revolvers but still dont mind getting "plinged" with some empites occasionally from the guy next to me shooting the auto. I just ignore it. Now I have never been "showered" with rapid fired hot shells before. I do get a little p....ed when I go to an almost empty range and am situated next to the only other person in there to their right and they have an auto loader. its like if you can just seperate us a little more that would be cool or to the person's left.
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Folks
I've been shooting for over 25 years. I hope I didn't come across like a crybaby with my hot brass story. Yes, we should have moved but as we all know when squeezing off rounds as fast as you can the casings are flying as fast as the bullets. The Incident took place in the space of about 30 seconds.
As far as my mysterious identity, I have never been to Baltimore. My nickname " Slinger" comes from a nickname from work relating to my autobody repair trade (bondo slinger). Not from Gun Slinger.
Thanks for all your interesting feedback. I'm sure the wife and I will be back at the range, but we'll take the spot on the far left. (Don't tell Rush Limbaugh).
Folks
I've been shooting for over 25 years. I hope I didn't come across like a crybaby with my hot brass story. Yes, we should have moved but as we all know when squeezing off rounds as fast as you can the casings are flying as fast as the bullets. The Incident took place in the space of about 30 seconds.
As far as my mysterious identity, I have never been to Baltimore. My nickname " Slinger" comes from a nickname from work relating to my autobody repair trade (bondo slinger). Not from Gun Slinger.
Thanks for all your interesting feedback. I'm sure the wife and I will be back at the range, but we'll take the spot on the far left. (Don't tell Rush Limbaugh).
I'm usually not upset by the brass...
But if he dumps enough rapid-fire hot stuff down my neck, I'll politely ask if he can put a target stand with cardboard backer up between our benches. If he tells me to piss off, I'll grab the Czech VZ-52 rifle, load up a clip, and continue to shoot that. (They eject vigorously and directly to the left)
But if he dumps enough rapid-fire hot stuff down my neck, I'll politely ask if he can put a target stand with cardboard backer up between our benches. If he tells me to piss off, I'll grab the Czech VZ-52 rifle, load up a clip, and continue to shoot that. (They eject vigorously and directly to the left)
johnnymenudo
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You gotta do what makes ya happy.
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Either your wife is one fast talker or we have *very* different definitions of what "rapid fire" means with an EBR.
I'm not really impressed with the passive-aggressive means of dealing with the problem here. Why do you expect people to stop doing something that annoys you if you dont take the time to ask them? If it wasnt important enough for you to deal with then why should it have been important enough for them?
Two things.
1 - It's rude to upset someone else and not try to make ammends. If I'm at a nightclub, and I bump into someone, I apologise. I know bumping into people is just something that happens in a nightclub, but it's still good manners to apologise. If these people realised they were showering you in spent casings, they should have apologised and offered to make amends (swap positions, move to your right, put up a barrier, whatever)
2 - When someone does something like this, it often pays to politely point out the problem, and attempt to negotiate a solution. Failing to do so, and instead leaving in a huff was probably not the best course of action.
1 - It's rude to upset someone else and not try to make ammends. If I'm at a nightclub, and I bump into someone, I apologise. I know bumping into people is just something that happens in a nightclub, but it's still good manners to apologise. If these people realised they were showering you in spent casings, they should have apologised and offered to make amends (swap positions, move to your right, put up a barrier, whatever)
2 - When someone does something like this, it often pays to politely point out the problem, and attempt to negotiate a solution. Failing to do so, and instead leaving in a huff was probably not the best course of action.
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When Sandy and I were at the range last, some moron's with Ak's, SKS, and a CETME, decided to set up NEXT to us~ outdoor,open, with 20 yards of space available. We had set up with bench vise's, and unpacked alot of stuff. Those a$$ho!%$ IGNORED me when I asked them to move down a little, cause we didn't want to get showered with brass. SO I HAD TO GET OUT THE BAZOOKA'S with muzzle breaks.
A 7mm RUM, a 7mm STW, a 300 RUM, and a 375 RUM. We use earmuffs & earplugs everytime we shoot just for reasons I mentioned above- those retards weren't quite prepared for the hurt. It was so funny we were laughing uncontrolably out loud, waiting for the '***** to get ready to load a magazine or pull the trigger- I was making them jump with the 7mmSTW- it has a factory remy break on it and seems the highest pitch.But I really got their attention with the 375RUM, I moved the rifle as far back under the roof as I could get, and let'er rip- end of problem. I think they got some serious head aches, not to mention on the last shot the muzzle blast actually got a puff of wind to move the guys hat. HAHAHAHAHAHA
A 7mm RUM, a 7mm STW, a 300 RUM, and a 375 RUM. We use earmuffs & earplugs everytime we shoot just for reasons I mentioned above- those retards weren't quite prepared for the hurt. It was so funny we were laughing uncontrolably out loud, waiting for the '***** to get ready to load a magazine or pull the trigger- I was making them jump with the 7mmSTW- it has a factory remy break on it and seems the highest pitch.But I really got their attention with the 375RUM, I moved the rifle as far back under the roof as I could get, and let'er rip- end of problem. I think they got some serious head aches, not to mention on the last shot the muzzle blast actually got a puff of wind to move the guys hat. HAHAHAHAHAHAStopTheGrays
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+1, I have done that with my Marlin guide gun in 45-70 a few times. The short one with the ported barrel. Some how the annoyance next to me always seems to move down a table after a couple of shots.
+1, I have done that with my Marlin guide gun in 45-70 a few times. The short one with the ported barrel. Some how the annoyance next to me always seems to move down a table after a couple of shots.
When I was young and dumb I loaded up a 30 round mag for my semi-auto Thompson and let her rip. Guy standing to my right got showered with a load of hot .45 brass. Some down his back and some into the cup of coffee he was holding. I didn't realize what was happening till it was over and his Buddy's were rolling on the floor laughing. I felt horrible not realizing where my spent brass was landing. I apologised profusely and believe me it NEVER happened again.
Funny thing about the whole mess was the guy wasn't mad at all!!
Funny thing about the whole mess was the guy wasn't mad at all!!
How's that guide gun on hybrids? (stops the grays pretty good I'd wager)
On watching brass...
recently at a THR shoot I whacked a friend's Chrono with brass from my prewar Colt Government model... he joked that I'd SHOT his chrono... yipes!
I've been hit between the eyes by flying brass hard enough to break the skin and bleed at an indoor range WITH dividers seperating the shooting stations (eyes and ears folks, eys and ears) said brass was .45 cal and bounced off the safety barrier in FRONT of the shooting lanes, bounced back and dinged me.
Always keep your 'ejection lane' in mind, esp with a rifle. Note that when "room clearing" an IDPA side match with an AK... the brass may indeed richochet back at the shooter/safety officer/spectators with glee.
A scrap piece of carpet is a perfect brass deflector.
You cannot tell where the barss From a Luger will go... but OFTEN it goes straight up in the air and behind you... much to the dismay of the people behind you. Keep this in mind if you see me handling my Luger.
Hot brass down your shorts is never a fun experience. .22's are the usual suspects when it comes to hot brass down your shorts.
On watching brass...
recently at a THR shoot I whacked a friend's Chrono with brass from my prewar Colt Government model... he joked that I'd SHOT his chrono... yipes!
I've been hit between the eyes by flying brass hard enough to break the skin and bleed at an indoor range WITH dividers seperating the shooting stations (eyes and ears folks, eys and ears) said brass was .45 cal and bounced off the safety barrier in FRONT of the shooting lanes, bounced back and dinged me.
Always keep your 'ejection lane' in mind, esp with a rifle. Note that when "room clearing" an IDPA side match with an AK... the brass may indeed richochet back at the shooter/safety officer/spectators with glee.
A scrap piece of carpet is a perfect brass deflector.
You cannot tell where the barss From a Luger will go... but OFTEN it goes straight up in the air and behind you... much to the dismay of the people behind you. Keep this in mind if you see me handling my Luger.
Hot brass down your shorts is never a fun experience. .22's are the usual suspects when it comes to hot brass down your shorts.
Art Eatman
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Reading through this thread makes me think it was worth it, working my tail off to have a place where the benchrest is on the front porch and the pistol range is in the back yard. Defintely worth it, all those years!
I dunno, though. If I'm gonna do rapid fire with a brass thrower, I'm gonna work with the neighbors on the downstream side. Warn'em, give'em a chance to step back, some such deal. Preferably, of course, be on their off side so it's no problem, if possible.
Or, wait a while until some space opens up, if people are in the "coming and going" sort of process...
Common courtesy, seems to me. Seems to be in short supply, these days.
Art
I dunno, though. If I'm gonna do rapid fire with a brass thrower, I'm gonna work with the neighbors on the downstream side. Warn'em, give'em a chance to step back, some such deal. Preferably, of course, be on their off side so it's no problem, if possible.
Or, wait a while until some space opens up, if people are in the "coming and going" sort of process...
Common courtesy, seems to me. Seems to be in short supply, these days.
Art
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"I try not to go to public ranges, but if I do I always go to the far left."
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Good advice.
How could anyone NOT KNOW to stay left of someone shooting a semi auto?
Always be aware of what others are getting ready to shoot in adjacent lanes.
Don't know how the lady got struck by the AK brass, everyone I've ever seen ejects FORWARD and right. She must have been literally inches away from the ejection port. Of all of the guns that I own, the AK is the most violent of all as far as tossing brass. If you want your lady to continue to go shooting with you don't let her get burned/struck--esp by rifle brass of all things.
"I try not to go to public ranges, but if I do I always go to the far left."
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Good advice.
How could anyone NOT KNOW to stay left of someone shooting a semi auto?
Always be aware of what others are getting ready to shoot in adjacent lanes. Don't know how the lady got struck by the AK brass, everyone I've ever seen ejects FORWARD and right. She must have been literally inches away from the ejection port. Of all of the guns that I own, the AK is the most violent of all as far as tossing brass. If you want your lady to continue to go shooting with you don't let her get burned/struck--esp by rifle brass of all things.
benEzra
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A little consideration goes a long way. "Excuse me, my rifle ejects brass to the right, so please let me know if it gets to be a problem" or somesuch. As the guy with the "AK", I always want to be the opposite of the media stereotype of EBR owners. And without fail, if I'm polite, the response has always been, "No, you're fine. Go ahead."
I've offered to trade places before, and if someone ever sets up to my right, I'm always careful to watch the first few cases to make sure they're not going in their direction. Of course, my first centerfire rifle was a mini-14, which shoots in two directions at once when you fire it (has thrown brass 30 feet on occasion...)
Nail Shooter, it isn't always how things happen.
Read my post above. I've got a semiauto milsurp that ejects briskly to the left. Payback and all...
As a range officer, I've seen many an AK and SKS throw brass so violently that it bounces off the ceiling and support bracing of our covered firing line, and land on the hapless shooter at the adjacent bench. I've also found 7.62x39 brass stuck case mouth first in the above lumber, so it definitely had some velocity going for it.
Read my post above. I've got a semiauto milsurp that ejects briskly to the left. Payback and all...
As a range officer, I've seen many an AK and SKS throw brass so violently that it bounces off the ceiling and support bracing of our covered firing line, and land on the hapless shooter at the adjacent bench. I've also found 7.62x39 brass stuck case mouth first in the above lumber, so it definitely had some velocity going for it.
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Nail Shooter, it isn't always how things happen.
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How could anyone NOT KNOW to stay left of someone shooting a semi auto?
Read my post above. I've got a semiauto milsurp that ejects briskly to the left. Payback and all...
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Gewehr98'
I DID read your post. I still stand by my advice. One should ALWAYS get to the left of someone shooting a semi auto if at all possible. On the rare occasion that doesn't work, then adjust. Anyone that's shot a time or two can usually figure that out pretty quickly.
I would never advocate puposely showering someone else w/ brass even as "payback". It is my personal opinion that people involved in our sport can do better than that. I go to the range to have fun. If people are intent on playing games, I'd rather leave than risk injury.
Nail Shooter, it isn't always how things happen.
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How could anyone NOT KNOW to stay left of someone shooting a semi auto?
Read my post above. I've got a semiauto milsurp that ejects briskly to the left. Payback and all...
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Gewehr98'
I DID read your post.
I still stand by my advice. One should ALWAYS get to the left of someone shooting a semi auto if at all possible. On the rare occasion that doesn't work, then adjust. Anyone that's shot a time or two can usually figure that out pretty quickly.I would never advocate puposely showering someone else w/ brass even as "payback". It is my personal opinion that people involved in our sport can do better than that. I go to the range to have fun. If people are intent on playing games, I'd rather leave than risk injury.
In this context, anyone have any suggestions for tuning a Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle so that it doesn't launch brass from h*** to breakfast? Most land behind, but good lord, the stuff jumps about two or three benches down-port. (Excuse me while I scrounge my brass at your bench while you shoot. ) Thanks.
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