Wave bye bye to eBay

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by dust_101, Jul 30, 2007.

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  1. deanf

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  2. blackwinch

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    I agree... Yawn

    Yawn sums it up...
     
  3. Destroyer318

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    eBay is so money hungry now, most people are beginning to stop posting anyway. Their rates are just out of sight now. I have basically stopped putting anything on there........ [​IMG]
     
  4. BBQJOE

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    Email just received from ebay:

    Thank you for your recent email to Matt Halprin in regard to changes to
    our Firearms, Weapons and Knives policy. He has asked that I review your
    email and respond on his behalf.

    Before choosing to discontinue use of your eBay account I hope that you
    would allow me the opportunity to explain why we have chosen to amend
    our policy.

    At eBay we take the safety of our community and our marketplace very
    seriously. We have a Trust and Safety team which consists of more than
    2,000 experts in online security and safety who are located around the
    globe. This team is dedicated to ensuring that our marketplace is a safe
    and trusted place for buyers and sellers to engage in trade.

    We value an open and transparent marketplace; if items are legal to buy
    and sell in an unrestricted manner we allow them on our site. However,
    there are some items that while legal, may not be safe for our
    marketplace. In these instances, our applicable policies go beyond the
    law to ensure that our marketplace is safe.

    After careful consideration our executives and our Trust and Safety team
    determined, that while legal, any item required to fire a gun has no
    place on eBay. All of our policies are under constant review. As the
    Internet and the way our communities use the Internet evolves, our
    policies and our marketplace must evolve with it. We determined that
    this policy change was in the best interest of promoting a safe
    marketplace for all members.

    I understand your frustration regarding this matter and apologize for
    the inconvenience it caused you.

    Sincerely,

    Terri
    Office of the President
     
  5. Leatherneck

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    Hypocrite.
    You can't have it both ways, darlin' Terri (why do I picture a little heart thingy over the i?)

    Illogical and inconsistent. As if they really care.

    TC
     
  6. cdrt

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    Got the same email a few minutes ago.
    My response was:

    Thank you for your email. I would only point out that the firearms industry
    is one of the most regulated businesses in this country. Your policy, in
    effect, is telling anyone who owns a firearm in this country, that they
    cannot be trusted.

    If you were serious about selling items that can be misused, you would also
    prohibit the sale of knives, swords, baseball bats, etc.

    Again, it is well known that eBay and PayPal are anti-gun. You do not need
    to hide behind some excuse to discontinue selling gun related items. It is
    your right to discontinue these items. We don't like it and will move our
    business accordingly.
     
  7. Picknlittle

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  8. dust_101

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    The note on the eBay forums about that customer's brass being relisted is only because the policy change has not taken effect yet.

    That however is not stopping anti-gun eBay employees from rabidly pulling any auction that is reported to them, or comes across their pre-screen for new listings.

    They aren't changing their minds. It has been what, about 4 months since VA Tech? That entire time their lawyers and Meg and Bill have all been figuring out the big old CYA once they make this eBay LAW.... :barf:
     
  9. kd7nqb

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    yea this sucks, I have bought a few gun related items their but the policy bothers me more because they think that they are responsible for VT. Need to find the feed back email and let them know how I feel.
     
  10. Scorpiusdeus

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    While I think it's a stupid rule, It's their company they can do as they please. I like to use ebay to get deals on a million other things. They've always backed me up in disputes so While I don;t agree with the policy, It won;t change my dealing with them much except they'll lose the gun related income they used to get from me.
     
  11. Harley Quinn

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    Just remember that Ebay is the largest pawnshop in the world for stolen merchandise. I'm sure they are real concerned with the fact that they earn their money through the sales of stolen items... Yeah right! As far as I'm concerned they should be imprisoned for complicity in the crimes that are committed to get the items online.
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    Do you think this is really true?
    I am sort of skeptic about this myself, knowing the business of pawnbrokering, they are heavily regulated and I don't believe E-bay is like that myself.
    Most of the dealing's I have had, been really good and descent folks. They do have a group that follows this spot pretty close (LEO) I'd have to think.

    HQ
     
  12. S.P.E.C.T.R.E.

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    In the case that eBay goes forward with this foolishness, what is a good gun parts website? Is gunbroker pretty good for gun parts or is there a better place?

    I wonder, would it make more of an impact to mail paper letters to these fools?
     
  13. deputy tom

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    Stuff e-bay and pay-pal as well.tom.
     
  14. outerlimit

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    Gunbroker, Auction Arms, Guns America.

    I would rather give my business to them than feEbay.
     
  15. skinnyguy

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    brownells.com has a bunch of replacement parts also
     
  16. R.W.Dale

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    I just love being painted upon with a broad brush.

    What's next? Is E-bay gonna come out next week and deny black people the usage of their services cause their money could be from liquor store robberies.

    Bigotry is Bigotry no matter what group of people it's directed against.
     
  17. R.W.Dale

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    Yeah! I can go to brownells and order a rear sight for a MAS36.

    The great thing about E-bay was being able to locate those parts that you'd NEVER find any other way
     
  18. 45Badger

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    I think EBay owns a significant stake in Craigslist. :banghead:
     
  19. General Geoff

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    I don't know about that.

     
  20. fmnnc

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    Who the hell decides what is safe? I've had students to stab another with a pencil! Do we ban pencils in schools and stop selling them on ebay? No...we deal with the people involved and move on. This crap from e-bay makes me sick. Also, where the hell is the NRA on this one? Surely they could rattle some chains. I've got to stop, my blood pressure is sky high.....I'll come back once I've cooled down some. :cuss:
     
  21. GlowinPontiac

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    If ebay wants to do something useful they should stop selling home brewing supplies to minors that make their own beer because they cant legally buy it.

    guess in their eyes a teenager getting drunk off of a homebrew kit sold on ebay and then driving and killing an inoocent family is ok but a law abiding gun owner buying a box full of brass is wrong.

    i wonder how many people will now be selling ".45 inch inside diameter scrap brass cylinders" on ebay!
     
  22. Sonic

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    We lose nothing by trying to get eBay to reverse their policy, and if we get the word out and get organized, I believe it is definitely possible they would. If 6 months or a year from now we were able to get organized to the point where even just one-tenth of 1% of the nationwide populace of gun owners send eBay an e-mail every week about the non-firearm item auctions they are now neither bidding on nor starting, that would be tens of thousands of e-mails every week telling eBay about business they have lost. This is something that I very much doubt eBay would ignore, and it would painfully cut through eBay's belief that with their newly enplaced ban they are only losing the firearm item auctions, but that they are in fact also losing a lot of business on many other auction types.

    I still believe an organized, and most importantly a long term boycott, with weekly e-mails to eBay about all the other (non-firearm) auction business they are losing, stands a very good chance of eventually convincing them to reverse their decision, or at least compel them to spinoff an independent eBay related internet auction company that would handle firearm item auctions. I am going to contact the NRA and GOA and see if they would be willing to get behind this boycott method, and will let everyone know what if any response I get. But no matter what I will still proceed on my own with the boycott/weekly e-mail campaign, and will encourage others to join in whenever possible. I know most will think it is a waste of time, but when it comes to gun rights we shouldn't just fight the fights with good odds, we should always just fight.
     
  23. 10-Ring

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    Who's running that place, the DNC?
     
  24. Sir Aardvark

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    "We have a Trust and Safety team which consists of more than
    2,000 experts..."


    No wonder thier fees are so high - they have to pay all these "experts".

    I wished I owned a company that could just bleed money on "experts" and stupid rules and still be successful.
     
  25. Highway Magician

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