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Weird Rifle at the range..

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by indy1919a4, Oct 11, 2019 at 12:57 PM.

  1. indy1919a4

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    Well the rain hit, so ran to range to test something and the guy aside of me had the weirdest rifle I have ever seen.. . DSCF1327.JPG

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    That guy has a pretty special gun! Chauchats are odd. Even for a WWI automatic rifle​
     
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  4. Jimster

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    Kinda fugly.
     
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    ... but still high on "coolness factor."
     
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    I'm going with fugly, I tho now I have to research them......
     
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    Here's C&Rsenal's video on the Chauchat as built in Europe
    Here's the one for the U.S-built version.
    They were much despised at the time, but they weren't improved upon until the BAR.
     
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    Thanks for the links! Something to do this evening ...
     
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    the improved mag shown was to late for service in WWI.
     
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    In the dark bottom photo that looks like a nightmare mash-up using a Moisin buttstock, a 1911 grip frame, an AR magazine and buffer tube, an Enfield Jungle Carbine flash hider attached to a ported and turned-down Ruger No. 1 Tropical barrel, a Henry rear sight, half of an H&K front sight, a pair of tarp stakes for a bipod...and a set of mini-truck nuts hanging underneath...:what:

    I sure hope it shoots better than it looks, as I'll third the Fugly comments above :).

    Stay safe.
     
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  11. Jim Watson

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    Did it go "buda buda buda?"
     
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    Ahhh, the good old days before they knew what an autorifle was supposed to look like-

    5d063e01f6a3537abff5dabc0af1e54f.jpg Farquar-Hill rifle
    Cei-rigotti.jpg Cei-Rigotti
     
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    Pretty awesome is what it is.
     
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    In reading about WWI I remember the Chauchat being mentioned but never in a positive way.
     
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    Is that the fabled "shoulder thing that goes up"?
     
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    The Ribeyrolles carbine by the same designer as the Chauchat figures prominently in the Black Chamber alternate history WWI stories by S.M. Stirling.
    Also the Federov Automat and a hypothetical Browning Light Automatic Rifle.
     
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    Another one, that was eerily prescient of later developments in Russia......
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    1916 Federov Avtomat.
     
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    Cool rifle. Thanks for sharing. Nice looking range as well.

    ETA - My brother bought an old Remington chambered for 8mm Lebel. It was one of the rifles built during WWI for the French but the war ended before it could be shipped. The rifle was subsequently sported (badly) and made the rounds for who knows how long. I remember that rifle had a pretty good kick. A day at the range with that rifle, given the availability of ammo, usually meant only two-three rounds each and left a bruise on our tender young shoulders.

    Good times
     
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    VERY interesting... You should consider yourself lucky to have seen one in the wild !!
     
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    I have read the same regarding American forces, the Chauchat simply could not take the conversion to .30-06 in a reliable fashion but apparently did okay for walking fire support using the Lebel cartridge for the French.

    The American plan in 1919 was the top secret conversion of the springfield for auto fire using a device designed by John Pedersen aka the Pedersen device and a lower power special .30 caliber cartridge. The plan for the proposed 1919 Allied offensive was to overwhelm the Germans via these devices fitted to Mark I Springfields designed for the Pedersen device.

    Fortunately the Germans collapsed in late 1918 which probably avoided a bloodbath of American soldiers being slaughtered trying to assault entrenched positions.
     
  22. indy1919a4

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    Well to be honest it the kind of the norm in topsy-turvy-never-say-die world I live in. Some of the things that you see there are unreal..
     
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    Orlando is hardly the "real" world, lol. More like Bizarro dimension, or the Mirror Universe.
     
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    Can you even imagine trying to control that ungainly thing with that stock geometry? I think you would end up shooting behind you if you tried to do a whole mag dump
     
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    Chauchat's in 8mm Lebel are raer, that one in 30-06 is extremely rare. 16 shot mags for the 30/06
     
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