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Well, I got fired finally

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Devonai, Sep 25, 2003.

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  1. Devonai

    Devonai Member

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    Some of you might remember my misadventure from this thread last July.

    I was suspended without pay pending the outcome of the magistrate hearing, which wasn't scheduled until November 15th . :fire:

    Not only did my company refuse to back me up on this one, but they tried to block my unemployment claim. Fortunately they didn't bother to show up at the unemployment hearing so the ruling was in my favor. I have since gone off unemployment as I have a new (and much better) job. But if they had won their appeal I would have had to give back all the unemployment money I'd collected. Ouch.

    So, despite the fact that I had no intention of going back to the courier company, I didn't want to quit until the outcome of the magistrate hearing. Why complicate an already messy situation by changing my employment status? Anyway, the courier company, apparently pissed about missing the unemployment hearing (which they requested), fired me. Fortunately they waited until after I'd gone off unemployment as this might have changed my claim status.

    So I'm on my own for the magistrate hearing in November. My plan is to attend the magistrate hearing on my own, and if I don't win and am forced to request a bench trial (my last chance to beat the ticket), I will hire a lawyer. $150 for the ticket plus $2100 over three years in car insurance pales in comparison to the $750 for the lawyer.

    If I lose both the magistrate hearing and the bench trial I may sue the courier company, if my lawyer thinks we have a case.

    Oh, and why did the courier company suspend/fire me? Because instead of calling the police directly (which is the policy), I called my dispatcher and asked her to call the police on my behalf. Splitting hairs? Obviously so, but it was all the justification the company needed to screw me over. BTW I gave them over two years of reliable service and this is how they repay me. :fire:
     
  2. swingset

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    Good luck and give 'em hell.

    Sounds like a crappy deal, but I'm glad you found new employment. Best revenge is to get on with your life happily. :D
     
  3. Zedicus

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    Thats Stinks, that (not cop bashing) cop may be have a grudge over it and could possably be pulling some strings...

    but then again employers (atleast in the uk) don't give half a dried dog turd how many years of dedicated time you give them.

    A Friend of mine was ricently fired by his employer after having been a dedicated employee for over 30 years, there reason was just about as pathetic as your employer's was...

    And his Job was to basicaly save the company money, he usualy saved/recovered in the area of 200 million a year more than what had ever previously been recovered of lost/embezled/stollen goods/money, and they fired him on a "made up" accusation of "not pulling his weight" in the company.:scrutiny:
     
  4. Waitone

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    Welcome to the world of "loyalty." It took 'em 30 years he wasn't pulling his own weight?????? Yea, right! You friend's problem is he was a 30 year employee (translation: expensive employee). He was off'ed becasue of his costs. The revenue he generated is irrelevant because the guy making the decision to cut has nothing to do with revenue generation. He gets his bonus on cutting costs. Irrational and sub-human IMHO, but that's the way it is, Kiddies!

    Entirely too much of that going around.
     
  5. RTFM

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    I tend to like cops, I'd never be able to do what they do and be polite.
    But after a horrible year of exile in Massachusetts (work related road trip) I am of the opinion that Massachusetts cops are nothing but bullies with guns.
    Devonai, I read your old post, that bites, but I can see some self inflated cop thinking he's going to $crew with you because you are not one of their select few. Nothing but a civilan want-to-be in his eyes.
    I hope you get what you deserve out of your ex-company but if the cops are involved, your automatically guilty in Massachusetts.
    Best of luck. And get the h3LL out of that state to some more friendlier place.

    P.S. Wish I knew about your Massachusetts militia when I was there.
     
  6. chas_martel

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    You guys better be careful. This thread will most likely be locked, your treading on thin ice by even remotely impling that any cop is the least bit bad.
     
  7. SAG0282

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    Sorry to hear about your situation........best of luck to ya.
     
  8. spacemanspiff

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    good luck devonai. keep us updated on this.
     
  9. DorGunR

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    You guys better be careful. This thread will most likely be locked, your treading on thin ice by even remotely impling that any cop is the least bit bad.

    I guess the 1st ammendment is being tossed along with the 2nd & 4th, huh????:rolleyes:
     
  10. wingman

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    While not happy being old it is good being retired.!! The work place is much less friendly then years past, less productive(yes I know "they" say not),
    more of a stab your fellow worker in the back mind set, makes for more stress,
    and less happy workers, I "feel" for young workers it is indeed too bad.
     
  11. Sean Smith

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    How many times is this stupidity going to be repeated? You don't have a RIGHT to be on this forum in the first place. You have no free speech right here because you are here as a guest at the sufferenace of the people who run the site. This forum can't deprive you of rights because you have no "right" to be here at all.
     
  12. RTFM

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    This is going to get interesting now...
     
  13. Werewolf

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    One bad cop does not a bad force make but here's my experience with Massachusetts cops.

    Leaving Logan International Airport in a rent a car you have to go thru a toll booth for a tunnel or parkway or something on the way to downtown Boston (I don't remember the details it's been over 12 years). At the time - 1991 - the toll was 1.25 or so. I gave the toll booth attendant a $20 and the bastard kept the change and wouldn't give it back. I refused to leave and he threatened to call the cops. I told him go ahead. When the cop got there he essentially told me move along or go to jail. As I drove off a look in the rear view mirror revealed the toll booth attendant slipping the cop a bill.

    That soured me on Massachussets from that day forward. After that it was exact change only at toll booths. F*&^%$king crooks and damned commie socialists besides.

    When I got back to Oklahoma I told a co-worker who'd moved here from Boston about the incident and he said "so what else is new". According to him that incident is something that happens to out of towners all the time. The locals just knew to only pay with exact change. He then proceeded to regale me with a number of other tales concerning Massachusetts cops.

    As far as I'm concerned its no wonder Massachusetts has such strict gun control laws. Without them the citizens would take to the streets and replace the current crop of cops and politicians (or maybe not - after a number of visits to that area I'm convinced that the gene pool has lost all it's variety - if you know what I mean).
     
  14. Quartus

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    From teh first thread, some good advice from Jim March.



    I hope you did this. It will help your case if the cop was found guilty of misconduct. And it would be fun to be able to subpoena the company that fired you. It will tweak them just a bit to have to spend time and money providing evidence.
     
  15. DorGunR

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    Sean Smith posted:
    How many times is this stupidity going to be repeated? You don't have a RIGHT to be on this forum in the first place. You have no free speech right here because you are here as a guest at the sufferenace of the people who run the site. This forum can't deprive you of rights because you have no "right" to be here at all.
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    You are correct Mr. Smith.....................my bad.
    :eek:
     
  16. Ex-Doc

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    Closed in 5....4.....3.....2......
     
  17. RTFM

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    I'll bet you could not repeat a single nice thing he said about them huh?
    (cuz' nobody has yet)
     
  18. J.BELLINO

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    TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE WHO SPENT 42 YEARS OF HIS LIFE IN THAT MOST CORRUPT OF ALL STATES....DO WHAT EVER YOU HAVE TO DO BUT GET OUT LIKE I DID 16 YRS. AGO.
    LEAVE THAT STATE TO THE COPS AND THE KENNEDY'S AND LET THEM ENJOY EACH OTHER!
    I REALLY NEVER NEW JUST HOW BAD IT WAS TILL I LEFT AND STARTED REALLY ENJOYING LIFE WITH POLITE AND DECENT PEOPLE HERE IN ARIZONA.
     
  19. Quartus

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    Welcome to THR, J.BELLINO!




    Uh, no need to SHOUT, though.
     
  20. Moparmike

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    Good luck Devonai. The particular officer of which you speak needs to have his badge pulled pronto. As a representative of the local .gov and therefore of the city and the people within, this tarnishes the (once) good name of your city and state.

    J.Bellino: Your caps lock appears to be on, or one of your pinkies is permanately glued to the shift button.;)
     
  21. Werewolf

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    RTFM Said:
    Nary a one my friend because he didn't have a single nice thing to say about them. AND my experience in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts sure won't give lie to an ex-native's stories.
     
  22. Cosmoline

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    I strongly suspect the cop in question went "above and beyond the call" to get you canned.

    List of folks to try to avoid making angry: Lawyers, women, and cops.

    A female cop who's a laywer? Don't even think about it.
     
  23. tetleyb

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    Wow, an awful lot of BS being posted here. I really can't, or maybe I should, but I really can't believe the amount of people "cop bashing." Call it what you will, however that is what it boils down too.

    One person posts something and its automatically true. How does anyone on this board know the original post was true? Does anyone know the other side of the story (you know there IS two sides to every story)? Does anyone know if the original poster has some axe to grind?

    There is what, 7,000 people on TheHighRoad? And how many have had a bad experience with the police? What is/are the precentages? The TRUE precentages?

    In the original replies to the original post, I believe it was Sarge who said, "you don't know police procedure..." he is right, you don't. Just because you think you were acting properly or correctly, in the officers eyes you may not have been. I have seen lots of people post things which are wrong, illegal, and downright ignorant, about police and police procedures; however, they THINK they do.
     
  24. Devonai

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    I can prove this story is true with a copy of my incident report, the ticket issued to me, the appeal hearing notice, and my letter of termination from the courier company. Of course, you won't see them because I don't need to prove myself to a complete stranger.

    There are two sides to every story. My side includes opinions, true. But the FACTS are the FACTS.

    I posted this story because I value the advice of THR members. If I wanted to make up stories I wouldn't expect to last very long as most THR members have fairly well developed BS detectors.

    I also had no intention of bashing cops. I respect the cops who respect me, and that includes the ones who've issued me speeding tickets on occasion. I have NO PROBLEM with LEOs who are just doing their job.

    Should I ask the moderator to close this thread myself or what?

    :fire:
     
  25. Moparmike

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    Well, if any cop bashing starts or your story is questioned/scrutinized again more strongly, I would suggest you do. No need to let stuff get out of hand.
     
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