Well, I got my CC license

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Congrats, seems like you have a good start here. Finding what you like and what works it's a life long journey for most and a safe full of guns and a bucket/tote/basement full of holsters is pretty common.

For sure get a good belt and don't skimp on holsters, both are key for comfort and support.

Try as much as you can and understand that gun shop feel doesn't always translate to best performance on the range, but it's often pretty close. Confidence is king. Caliber is largely irrelevant if you stick with any of the major service calibers.

For new CCW I'd recommend an autoloader in the roughly compact size, Glock 19, HK VP9, M&P Compact or equivalent. Probably 9mm as it's effective, easier to learn and generally cheaper.

For holsters it's a crap shoot since each body type is different and style and location vary wildly, but be patient. I never find a change in location or holster or gun to be anything other than uncomfortable for a week or two. Folks, I think, give up on a holster/gun combo because it's annoying too early, give your body some time to adjust to new rub/pressure points.

Is there a reason for wearing a pattern shirt? Does break up the imprint of the pistol or something?

Yes, patterns absolutely help break up the outline, as do dark colors over light. A t-shirt with an open button down over it can conceal just about anything, if your climate can handle a double layer.

Also, I prefer an a-shirt between my holster and my skin, always. A little hotter but far more comfortable with rub spots.
 
Get the Glock and learn to like it. We humans are adaptable and Glocks are the best.[/QUOTE]
I will say that Glocks are vary reliable tons of aftermarket parts vary easy to work on and look alike
When the G48 came out in black i bought the first one I saw what's not to like smaller than a 1911 but hold's 15 rounds and i shoot it better than my 1911
 
Like everyone that has carried for a while, I've got one drawer dedicated to holsters. It is the way.
A couple of large popcorn tins (like you can find almost everywhere around Christmas) hold the holsters I thought would be "perfect" when I bought them.:D
The popcorn was good though. Three flavors - regular, caramel and cheese.;)
 
Congratulations, on getting the carry license/permit!

There is no reason to build a “collection” of differing models and configurations of carry guns. You may have what you need, already.

A Hawaiian-type shirt can conceal quite large guns, such as full-sized duty pistols. (I have no idea what a “daddy-O” shirt is.)
 
Todays activities included walking the dogs a total of 3-4 miles, 10 mile bicycle ride, lunch out, shopping...
All while carrying a Glock 23 + spare mag
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True. You can make trip shorter and less costly by participating in a good defensive shooting course sooner, and finding which handgun , holster, and method of carry works for you in the drills.
I wish...that only makes the trip to the next "oh that's perfect" holster shorter...then it's on to the next.
 
Here's a thought.....just a thought, not a recommendation necessarily:

You could buy a subcompact like a lcp, glock 42, s&w bodygaurd, glock 43, jframe, etc......and have yourself a pocket gun for right now. Tshirts and shorts compatible. An lcp goes for $200 or a little more.
You can have a discreet carry gun while you research, test, and try guns for your ideal primary edc.
Your little subcompact will then be a b.u.g. or reserved for ultra discreet carry.

Just a thought. I would do it if I were to start over.
 
I suggest for an IWB holster the desantis dual carry II. It's fairly cheap, adjustable for angle and ride height when used IWB. It allows you to tuck your shirt in over the gun, if desired. You can wear it OWB but non adjustable and not the best angle. You may like it like I do and stick with it, or you may hate it. Either way you will figure out a lot of what you want in a holster as for angle and ride, IWB and OWB.

I carry a Springfield armory milspec 5" 1911 btw. I carried with my shirt tucked in as a pallbearer in a funeral and no one knew.
 
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I can't give you the right answer, but I can give you my opinion. (you know what they say about opinions). First the gun. Recognize two things, one is where you roam. You are more apt to have to deal with multiple threats in bigger cities. That makes capacity more important, and also reloads more of a concern. Second issue on carry guns is size and weight. The lighter and smaller are easier to carry, as long as you don't compromise below a certain level of effectiveness. As to the holster. Do not go cheap, a good quality holster is very important. IWB will likely be more effective carry if T shirts are your style of dress. I personally use a belly band holster, and that may or may not serve you well. I carry this way as I am in a wheel chair and it works well for me. Most all opinions here are good. They also mostly have some degree of personal preference within them . You may take from them what fits you and leave the rest. ( all of my post is personal opinion by the way, so feel free to consider it, or leave it lay)
 
If you carry IWB, keep in mind that the butt of the gun is what you have to conceal. The Cobra is nice, but that butt is a pain when you’re driving a lot. With most holsters, a revolvers butt either hangs up on the seat ( for lefties) or the steering wheel (for right handlers). A Bianchi Cyclone cross draw is concealable and works well with a revolver when driving. Simply Rugged holsters are what I use for most of my guns.

As so many have said, there’s a lot of trial and error in finding what works for you. Everybody has a box of holsters and stories of guns that just didn’t work.
 
Get the Glock and learn to like it. We humans are adaptable and Glocks are the best.
:eek:

Marry her and and learn to like it. We humans are adaptable and she's the best.
:rofl:
Divorces are cheap...
(another gun is cheaper than the above but still)

Other examples of the same line of "thinking"
Get a 1911, semi auto pistol design reached perfection with the 1911 (I have and like all of mine but there are other choices out there that are as good or better)
Get a revolver they never have issues like semi autos
9mm is worthless-punybellum
.45 ACP gives sure one shot stops, anything else is not powerfull enough
All "plastic" guns are junk
I had a XYZ and it was junk even though the company fixed the issue and it was fine afterwards but all XYZs are junk. (and most everybody elses XYZs seem fine)

and on and on
What's best for me may not be best for you or for that matter anybody else.
Things that are popular do tend to be popular for a reason, sometimes even for good reasons.

Does it feel good in your hand.
Does it shoot well for you (if you can shoot it)
Can you work all the controls with ease, rack slide, mag change, safety etc
Is it made by a reputable company with a good record for service if you need it.
How heavy is it? Things do tend to get heavier when worn all day, what is to heavy for one person may be fine for another.
Smaller is nice but smaller usually = harder to shoot well.
More rounds is a plus, in CA I can only have 10, but I don't ever recall reading anyone involved in a SD shooting complaining their gun held to many.


Lots more than the above to consider, but just being a Glock is not one of them.
A Glock might be the answer for you, and it might not be, lots of other good guns out there.
 
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My post :"You are more apt to have to deal with multiple threats in bigger cities."
Reply "I do not think that one can conclude that."
You may be correct, but I can for certain show you the 10 cities that have the highest homicide rate per 1,000 people, and they are all large cities. Statistically one might be able to compile data that the more homicides the more chances of encountering multiple shooters. I think besides shear numbers, you have factors such as more gang violence implying more than one member encountered.

My post: "The lighter and smaller are easier to carry,"
Reply: "Yes, but not as shootable."
Shootable to me indicates how well the gun fits the person and the level of efficiency of the shooter. The larger and heavier the gun does not always measure the effectiveness of putting a bullet on target (IMO). I sight an example of what I mean : while observing a lady shooting on an indoor range using a laser on a full size steel pistol. I noted that while the laser was placed on the bullseye, as she pulled the trigger you could see the laser dip downward and her shots would strike low. The distance between the pistols back strap and the front of the trigger was too long to fit her hand. In this case a smaller and perhaps lighter gun would have been appropriate, and more shootable for her. I agree that for shooters with larger hands, and good wrist strength a larger heavier gun can be more stable, and allow faster follow up shots. I however consider fit and practice are large factors and can effect what I think you meant be shootability.
 
I can for certain show you the 10 cities that have the highest homicide rate per 1,000 people, and they are all large cities.
Different issue.

Statistically one might be able to compile data that the more homicides the more chances of encountering multiple shooters.
Why would anyone expect that?

I think besides shear numbers, you have factors such as more gang violence implying more than one member encountered.
I do not think that an attacker's possible membership in a gang would mean anything.

I would expect the likelihood of encountering more than one attacker to be at least as high, and perhaps higher, than that of encountering only one, regardless of the population of the city.

Shootable to me indicates how well the gun fits the person and the level of efficiency of the shooter. The larger and heavier the gun does not always measure the effectiveness of putting a bullet on target (IMO).
It starts with fit and practice, but the sight radius and recoil-reducing mass can have a lot to do with how well one can put several bullets on target very rapidly
 
Personally, I would carry 1 or 2 spare reloads, 3 max. I'm more likely to encounter a meth-head than multiple attackers.
 
I'm more likely to encounter a meth-head than multiple attackers.
A single meth-head may be inclined to attack an individual due to a lack of inhibition, but for the most part, violent criminal actors often prefer to have an accomplice--an extra set of eyes, more effective force, someone to help grab the loot, a driver....

I would never try to dissuade anyone from carrying reloads, bu we need to remember that the lawful defender is not "going shooting." He may have a second and a half to detect a potential threat, orient himself, draw, and shoot. Not a lot of time in that interval for reloading.
 
Different issue.

Why would anyone expect that? For the same reason you fish a lake and not a swimming pool. The lake has more fish in it.

I do not think that an attacker's possible membership in a gang would mean anything. My experience with gangs are that they most often are a greater threat when there is more than one of them.

I would expect the likelihood of encountering more than one attacker to be at least as high, and perhaps higher, than that of encountering only one, regardless of the population of the city. Are there not more gangs in the larger cities ?

It starts with fit and practice, but the sight radius and recoil-reducing mass can have a lot to do with how well one can put several bullets on target very rapidly
I will go back to my original post which simply stated that a smaller and lighter gun is easier to carry. I did not critic anything beyond that, until making comments on the need for proper fit. I do not disagree with your comments regarding sight radius and weight being a factor.

I am not attempting to be arguementitive here . As I stated originally that my opinion is what you get, and it can be used or ignored . My opinions may well be worthless to the OP or anyone else, I take no Umbridge if your opinion differs from mine.
 
I got a Bulg Mak that I once considered to be the handgun I would carry once I got my license, but I personally dropped that idea. Their just getting too rare, not a whole lot of SD ammo, and not many replacement parts if it get damaged. I just prefer something more readily available and worse case scenario., replaceable.
Good thinking.
 
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