Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Yo Mama, May 19, 2022.
Taurus and sccy and psa and keltec and RIA metro hi point Ruger (autoloaders) Smith (autoloaders) and those guns are cheap decent guns. They will never be worth more than you paid though . Very few will be worth what they costed new.
My Glock 27 was 400 dollars 20 years ago. I could still get my 400 dollars after carrying it daily for 20 years. Same for sig/beretta/HK etc etc. Doesn't matter if they are great or junk. The value is usually in the name
I have several cheap guns i wouldn't think of selling because they just aren't worth much . Old supermatics and such come to mind. Old Marlin hammer fired pumps too. For such old guns they are pretty low values.
Most peple don't see it but inflation is stealing from us constantly.
You get a $5% raise and 7% inflation, you juse lost 2%.
I'd keep a proven reliable gun, especially an autoloader which when new requires expensive vetting with ammo. There is real value in that to the current owner imo.
My father passed away last summer, and one of the guns we found stashed around the house was a PF9. While all of the other guns have been divided between my brother and I (and our sons), the Keltec is still at my mother's house. Keltec...guns so good, you can't give them away.
$70 is a very lowball offer, but I expect to get that when I am asking people to pay up front and speculate with the return on their investment later. (Pawn shops, etc)
For that amount I’d hang onto it. Of it had to go a private sale posting on THR or through a gun club/firing range may be better options.
At first I was sort of ticked, but as I thought about it, it made sense. Just because he ran a gun shop didn't mean he had a market for every gun that came along. Some he knew he could sell fast and make a few bucks on. Others he knew would gather dust in the case for who knew how long.
One guy called me after seeing the FS that was from a local phone number. We met up and he handed over the green. I said we can go inside and complete the transfer. He said, "what transfer paperwork?" Where he comes from a PPT is an exchange with a bill of sale. I was a bit baffled thinking he was a CA resident. We talked more and he'd been at the range with some work buddy's showing him the area. He thought that this would be a great souvenir while he was visiting CA on business. He had brought his 5.56, several 9's so he had "room in the case". The cell phone was on loan from the company. He apologized not knowing how CA worked with firearm transfers.
In trade towards another gun he'll give me half of what he thinks he can sell it for.
For instance, he probably gave me $125 for the Turkish polymer 9mm I traded towards a S&W revolver, had it for sale for $275 the next day, sold it for $250 the day after that.
If I wanted cash instead of trade, he would maybe have maybe offered me $100. Maybe.
That's just the way it works. If a used handgun isn't particularly fashionable (new & popular or "classic"), then you won't get a lot for it from a gun shop or pawn shop. Especially if it has some wear.
My PF9 worked fine, but the trigger was horrible. I got it used barely over $100. I probably got $75-$85 for it by trading it towards something else.
I own a few handguns that I don't "need" and don't love, but they go bang every time and they're worth so little that I've kept them instead of getting rid of them.
(I think I only got rid of the PF9 after I had gotten a G43 and a LC9s and it was obviously never going to see the light of day again.)
An offer of $150 would mean that the shop thought they could offload it for something in the area of $300.
For a used PF9, that seems . . . quite high.
Definitely a massive overgeneralization here. Plenty of guns are not viewed as "tools" by the vast majority of the people interested in buying them, and it's a long way from "exceptionally weird" for guns to increase in value over time.
There's a world of handguns outside of your run-of-the-mill service firearms mass-produced by the shipload.
If one factors in some labor costs, $75 is pretty generous since there’s going to be at least $25 of overhead (logging the gun into the book, cleaning it up, taking photos if you advertise your products online, etc.) That means the shop makes $50 when the gun sells, or a little more if it’s pristine. $50 isn’t a fortune these days.
Keltecs, for all their virtues, are not collectible. Maybe in 50 years it’ll be a sought after relic of bygone eras in firearms manufacture, but right now this particular gun is a commodity, much like a screwdriver. It’s a tool for a purpose.
Bought my Ruger MkII 6" BBLfor 250 bucks IN 85' now used going for over 400 bucks.
Bought a Taurus 692 SS two years ago for $450, now they seem to be going for $750+ if you can find one
I bought a Taurus 380UL for $300, and they go for about $500 nowadays.
But it's different from PF9, which is be definition a disposable gun. I used to be a fan of KelTec before George went full ukrobot, but even so I resisted a temptation of PF9. And it is discontinued now, so the availability of parts may be spotty.
60% is about the rate of inflation over 35 years. You could have bought a Raven/Bryco/Davis/Lorcin/Jennings .25 for $50 back then, it's probably worth $125 now.
Keltecs are not moneymakers unless you somehow connive your buy a crateful at or below wholesale. And then you’re what’s called a dealer. And the profits won’t be too lucrative even then.
Look up how much that now 400 bucks is worth compared to 250 85' bucks.
Right, not losing money on proper quality gun investments. Just like buying gold.
I do believe there is a difference between quality steel made guns and plastic fantastics.
The PF 9 is not a high demand item
Used a LGS can sell it for what ? $150 or so,
Brand new a PF9 was MSRP of around $270
I hate selling guns!!
Folks mentioned selling online. Then you have to add in the transfer fee, and shipping. How much do you expect to get??
If the shop gave you $150 what can the sell it for to make any money??
I like my 9mm Diamondback more because it is more compact. I didn't buy either with the intention of reselling them. They are handy and lightweight and can save my butt if necessary.
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