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Well, THIS was unexpected . . .

Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by ArfinGreebly, Jun 23, 2011.

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  1. HorseSoldier

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    A desire to interject humor in the equation would seem to be the only thing that differentiates this from regular news, where you also have writers who're seeking to garner ratings and sell more advertising for widgets, whatever pretensions they may dress themselves up with.
     
  2. nwilliams

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    Yeah, they have writers but that doesn't mean that the opinions Stewart has are false in any way. It is still his show and I seriously doubt he would say anything put together by his writers that he didn't agree with. I guarantee you that most of the writing on the show is looked over carefully by him prior to the show and he either goes with it or he doesn't.

    Sorry but I have to disagree you again. Stewart makes regular appearances on so called serious news channels such as Fox to express his views and if you listen to him speak it's quite obvious that what he says is being said in complete seriousness and he's not just trying to be funny.

    Watch this interview and tell me he's not being completely serious and genuine.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
     
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    Although TDS is entertainment, the material gets worked over pretty thoroughly by Stewart and his writers which is more than you get from a newscaster reading from a teleprompter.
     
  4. LibShooter

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    Jon Stewart takes pains to explain his show is "fake news." But... his funny stuff seems to get closer to the "real truth" than the big J Journalists.

    Few of the news networks are overtly biased, but sometimes they miss the truth in a misguided attempt to give equal time. If 99.9% of experts hold one view on a topic, it's not "balanced" to talk to one expert on each side. That gives viewers the false impression that opinion is split 50-50. The Daily Show sometimes illustrates that by making the crazy guys seem crazy. I'm for that.
     
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    The Daily Show also does not cut interviews short to fill a 3 minute blurb.

    They let their guests speak, and you can watch the full interviews on the web shortly afterward.

    They catch blatant "errors" (being kind with the term) made by all of the "real" (also being kind) news networks.

    I miss the days when the all day news scroll went from story to story, across the world. instead of spending 6 hours on the non-entity of the day because everyone else is reporting the same inane waste of breath.
     
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    I heard somewhere that in an interview, Stewart said that he sees himself as a journalist, not just a comedian, and his show my not be serious, but is about serious news.

    Personally, I always got the feeling that Colbert was more Pro 2a than not.

    Really, I'd like to know Jon Olivers stance.
     
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    He can see himself anyway he likes but if what he does is considered serious journalism by even community college standards, journalism has sunk to even lower lows.

    I just hope that the reports of shows like Stewarts influencing the younger crowd during the 08 elections was all hype, because if it has any teeth, I'd like to find the father of every kid who takes this boob seriously and slap some sense in him for raising a kid who can't distinguish make believe from reality.
     
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    I'm surprised that the media isn't drawing up a bigger storm around this catastrophe.
    This is an outright scandal, and should be treated as such.

    Giving drug traffickers guns to see what they do with them, then realizing after the fact that you never had a way to track the guns in the first place?

    Some might say this is closing the barn door after the horse has left.
    I'd say this is more like leaving the horse in an empty field without a fence, then forgetting what field you left it in.

    Stuff like this does belong on Comedy Central.
    Unfortunately we're watching it on The Daily Show, rather than Reno 911...
     
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    Will Rogers was a serious political force even thought he was "just a vaudeville comedian". Humorists that have used humor to highlight truth has always been an effective political and social force.
     
  11. Mp7

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    There are so many people without humor on the internet. Here, too.

    I think people like Stewart and Colbert are defending the american culture
    by enabling people to laugh about themselves and ridcule the system.

    This was a great example.
     
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    Feedthehogs used a very nicel journalistic technique there himself ... He posted this as what John stewart said as quoted by someone else:

    I scrolled up and found this ...

    Now, taking just this tiny sample of what is going on in reporting the beliefs of one person, who here still has faith in their news?
    What we gotta keep in mind when we talk about journalism is that *nobody* is even capable of giving truly objective news. And if they did, nobody would watch it, because stating some facts in chronological order doesn't give the entire picture either, usually! Not to mention it's incredibly hard to follow.
     
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    They have just been using the wrong highlighters like the CIA...:scrutiny:

    Highlighters
     
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    It takes a while to change the course of a big ship. Hopefully this will prove to at least aid the change in direction.
     
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    For those who missed it:

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    I wonder if Jon Stewart ripping the BATFE will be a signal to the left of center journalists that it is okay to report on this?

    Clutch
     
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    Nah-'specially MSNBC.
    I've been kinda keeping an eye on 'em-when news regarding this case breaks, I often DVR the 5? hour block of talking heads on MSNBC to get a laugh outta how they'll spin this-so far, I'm seeing nuttin'.

    Maddow briefly touched on it 'bout a week ago, but it was just a drive by mention as the main focus of her story was how many agencies had acting heads-I was expecting her to blame the NRA at any time, but I guess that might have meant she would have to go into more detail (and they don't want that).

    On Fox yesterday, they gave extensive coverage on Mexico wanting to extradite those involved-DVRed the usual 5-hour block on MSNBC and absolutely NO mention made of it yesterday-I'm going to give 'em a few more tries.

    And no, I don't watch 'em all-I just fast forward thourgh 'em all looking for the ATF story.
     
  19. Ryanxia

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    That was a great 6 minutes :D
     
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    "The greatest thing about this man is he's steady. You know where he stands. He believes the same thing Wednesday that he believed on Monday, no matter what happened Tuesday. Events can change; this man's beliefs never will."
     
  22. basicblur

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    Just did my daily DVR drive by...Special Report on FOX tonight led off with the ATF/Melson story.
    Meanwhile, over on MSNBC...Maddow, Shultz, McDonnell, and Matthews (even tried Olberman on Current TV) all said squat!

    This reminds me of the recent Black Panthers voter intimidation story.
    If not for FOX, you'd never have heard the story.

    I'm just curious how far/high this will have to go before they finally have to acknowledge the story? :D
     
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