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What 1911 to get...Will be my 1st!...Need THR's help!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by mosttoyswins, Oct 21, 2006.

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Which one should be my 1st 1911!

  1. Sig Arms GSR 5" Stainless, rail, case, papers $999.00

    9 vote(s)
    5.9%
  2. Kimber Stainless Gold Match, 5", Case and 2 magazines $999.00

    5 vote(s)
    3.3%
  3. Kimber PRO TLE/RL II, 3 1/2", tac rail, night sights, 2 mags, box, papers, $939.00

    1 vote(s)
    0.7%
  4. Kimber Eclipse Pro II, 4",stainless, match trigger, night sights, hogue grips $899.00

    10 vote(s)
    6.5%
  5. Kimber Custom II, $799.00

    12 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Para-Ordnance P13, case, $699.00

    8 vote(s)
    5.2%
  7. Springfield 1911 A1, 5", Stainless, Case, 2 magazines, papers $599.00

    67 vote(s)
    43.8%
  8. Other - please specify in thread

    41 vote(s)
    26.8%
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  1. mosttoyswins

    mosttoyswins Member

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    Hey gang,

    I know this thread has been done probably a 1000 times, so I apologize in advance.

    I tried running a search on this topic, but I don't have 3 years to read them all :neener: .

    I have had many pistols over the years, but I consider myself to be 1911 stupid, so I need some help.

    I am 6'3", 210 lbs, medium frame...I tried a few of these on for size today and found I can conceal a Government size (the big one :eek: ) IWB just fine but I am not against the commander or service size (smaller ones). I hope I got those right.

    It will be used for the range, home defense and carry piece when dress allows.

    So vote on which one should be my 1st!

    Don't worry about price, all of these fall into my price range, but please try to balance quality with the price of each gun and please let me know if some of these are overpriced.

    All of these guns are pre-owned and in at least 98% condition and come with a lifetime warranty from the gun shop (gunsmith on site!).

    Thanks in advance!

    Please vote based on quality and price.
     
  2. 10-Ring

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    1st off, I prefer steel framed 1911's w/ fullsize grips. So, I'd look at a govt' model or a commander model. You'd end up w/ good to very good sight radius w/ 4" or 5" barrel. The smaller sizes - ie. Officer's model - might be a tad too small (IMHO) and I've read a few too many reviews on smaller 1911's to be sold on the tiny 1911s
     
  3. hurrakane212

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    Smith and Wesson 1911... full size if you can conceal it, scandium if you want.
    They are pretty much 100% right out of the box from all the reports I've heard. A S&W 1911 was the first 1911 I ever shot, and still my favorite. I've shot kimbers, good shooting guns, liked the Smith better.
    Best advice I can give you though is "Rent, rent, rent some more, the 100$ you spend renting and trying guns will give you a priceless amount of satisfaction that you did, indeed, get what was best for you."~Nathan
     
  4. Ala Dan

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    Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special 1911

    You won't need any other~!:D
     
  5. Vitamin G

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    Don't overlook the new Taurus... I havn't shot one, but i've heard nothing but good things, and they run about $450.
     
  6. Cousin Mike

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    I'll endorse a Wilson Combat, if you have the money.

    FWIW, I've never had the pleasure of shooting a Les Baer, or most other custom 1911's - but recently in a class I took I got the chance to shoot a Wilson quite extensively.. Oh man!

    I've never had to try so hard to fight the urge to come home, and throw my 1911 in the trash. :D

    If you've got about $2100 to spend, you can have one of these amazing pistols. If you're working with a little less than that, there are plenty of 1911's out there that are probably just as good, I'm sure... Just don't get a GI model, unless you know for a FACT that you really want one. Also, a full size 1911 is not hard to conceal - especially for a fella your size (about 2 inches taller and 20lbs. lighter than me :D).

    That's my advice... worth every cent you paid for it, I believe. :)
     
  7. Extremist

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    If money is no object, relatively speaking, I second the Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special. Or the Smith & Wesson PC 1911 Melonite.

    If you are on a budget and want to stay under $1000, then my choice would be the Smith & Wesson 1911 PD Tac Rail in Melonite.

    James
     
  8. Helstrm

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    All of the guns listed will preform well for you. If this is your first 1911 I voted for the SA. I love the looks of the Kimber eclipse II but other than that the SA will perform as well as any kimber so if you like it buy it. I am not a fan of the external extractors so I stay away from any 1911 using them.
     
  9. XavierBreath

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    Sig Arms GSR 5" Stainless, rail, case, papers $999.00 = Overpriced for a used gun. I saw the same gun at a gun show last week for $750.

    Kimber Stainless Gold Match, 5", Case and 2 magazines $999.00 = Again, overpriced.

    Kimber PRO TLE/RL II, 3 1/2", tac rail, night sights, 2 mags, box, papers, $939.00 = Overpriced

    Kimber Eclipse Pro II, 4",stainless, match trigger, night sights, hogue grips $899.00 = Almost right, but a bit high still.

    Kimber Custom II, $799.00 = Overpriced. If it was not a Series II it might be close....

    Para-Ordnance P13, case, $699.00 = No.

    Springfield 1911 A1, 5", Stainless, Case, 2 magazines, papers $599.00 = Which Springfield? If a Mil-Spec, it's overpriced. If a Loaded, it's a fair but not a good price.

    I'd say shop around a bit. This gun shop is running high on their prices IMHO. I would advise you to buy a Springfield GI45 for $500 total and shoot it for six to 12 months. Get used to the 1911 platform. Let it teach you what you want/need. Then sell it for $400, having invested $100 in good research and a lot of fun, and do some knowledgeable shopping. Once you know for yourself, from having used the 1911 platform yourself, you can better judge which gun meets your needs. If there are none on the market that meets your specific needs, you can order one up that does, or build it yourself. When it comes to which 1911 is best for you, that will work a lot better than a poll of anonymous internet users.
     
  10. mosttoyswins

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    I appreciate all the responses!

    XavierBreath, that was EXACTLY what I was looking for!

    I ususally get a $50.00 to $100.00 frequent buyer discount from the guy I deal with, that may make the prices a little more competitive, and I do believe the free gunsmith on site is worth a small amount of $$$.

    I will make sure I check out our Saxet gunshow at the end of the month before buying.

    Thanks again for the suggestions and keep 'em coming!

    MTW
     
  11. .357 magnum

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    More Bang for the buck.

    I have been looking at the 1911 for a while wanting one myself. Considering price, overall quality and needs. I am going to try the Taurus. It gets great reviews and I can get one here for 480.00 I know there will be a host of people that will question the quality of Taurus. I have found them to be one hell of a gun mfg. Check out their new tactical area of their website. I intend to get their new 24/7 SOCOM when it comes out also. I have several of thier 24/7 pistols currently. Very dependable, accurate and have features many expensive pistols do not offer. Really like their .40 cals in the 24/7 I am also a big .45 fan so Taurus fits quite a few of my needs. I have a couple of Sprinfield offerings in the .45 [xd service model and tactical] Springfield is also one of my choices. Great price and product with Springfield also. I really want to get the most for my dollar and not spare quality.

    The Best to you and yours!

    http://www.taurustactical.com/index.cfm

    http://www.taurustactical.com/products/product-details.cfm?id=59&category=Pistol

    http://www.taurustactical.com/dsp_247oss.cfm
     
  12. larry starling

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    COLT any Government model they make..After more than 90 years, it's still "the standard" everyone else imitates, but no one duplicates. Buy the real deal avoid copys......:evil:
     
  13. hankdatank1362

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    The Taurus has a few things that I just wouldn't care for on a 1911, like full length guide rod and ambi safety. Personally I fell in love with the Springfield Armory custom model the FBI uses as it's HRT sidearm. (You know, the one in the gun magazines saying "You may never have to breach an entry to end a six hour hostage standoff... but your Springfield has." The one under that ad!):D

    In your list, I'd go with the SIGARMS, without a doubt.
     
  14. BrainOnSigs

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    Yup!

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  15. HSMITH

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    If you can afford it a Baer is the way to go in a production 1911. I would buy the Premier II though instead of the TR model personally.
     
  16. progunner1957

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    Baer 1911s - without equal

    Amen on the Thunder Ranch! I have a TR and it has been 100% reliable and shoots one hole groups at combat distances of 7-10 yards, and this is without the 1.5" at 50 yards accurizing package. It is the most accurate handgun I have ever owned or fired.

    Here are the most affordable Baer 1911 options:

    Concept I blue (5") $1525
    Concept II blue (5") $1525
    Premier II blue (5") $1598
    Stinger blue (Officer's size frame, Commander size slide) $1666
    Stinger stainless (same as above) $1675
    Concept VII blue (4.25") $1699
    Concept VIII stainless (4.25") $1740
    Thunder Ranch (5") $1748

    Yes, Baers cost more than Kimbers, Colts, Springfields, Paras, etc. but they are an entirely different breed of gun; they stand head and sholders above the assembly line guns. You won't get the kind of workmanship, accuracy and reliability Baer 1911s have in any production gun.

    IMHO, if there's any possible way to afford a Baer, there is no other chioce. If you invest in a Baer 1911, you will never regret it!
     
  17. riverdog

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    Colt, new Series 70 or a 1991A1. Seems like every other company has adopted the front slide serrations and Colt has stayed with a clean slide.
     
  18. Ohen Cepel

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    Of the options I think the Springfield is the best bang for the buck.

    I'm not a fan of short 1911 though so that ruled out several of them for me.
     
  19. K.L.O.sako

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    hey if price is no problem GO KIMBER you wont be sorry. the accuracy of these pistols is unreal and company service is first rate. the short barrelled 1911's can be real whippy in the hands. i'd go full size for an all purpose 1911. para ordnance would be a close second.
     
  20. Snagglepuss

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    A Dan Wesson PM7 is a great gun, much nicer than some listed and is in your price range. A Razorback would also be a great choice. You should at least look at them before you make a decision.
     
  21. 1911 guy

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    Get thee a Springfield.

    Kimbers are good pistols, just overpriced for what you get. Para has a good reputation from most, but parts are different from other 1911 makers. Proprietary stuff only from them and through Brownells. The Sig is a nice handgun, but finding holsters to fit both a railed gun and also you limits your choices somewhat. I'd take a long look at Springfield, check out everything from a parkerized G.I. model to the "all bells and whistles included" model to see what you like. They have, without a doubt, the highest quality frame on the current market.
     
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  23. Powder_Burn

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    For ~$1,000 budget, I would buy a used Les Baer in lieu of any listed in the poll. I've had a bunch of 1911's/2011's and the Baer's are 100% reliable and super accurate. With other brands I experienced MIM parts breaking and reliability issues that gave me a constant headache.
     
  24. highlander 5

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    +1 S&W 1911 or Para have both para is commander style single stack both are stainless steel
     
  25. 2TransAms

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    Other! I'd look at the Dan Wesson Pointman Seven,or the Commander Bobtail(C-BOB). The Kimber Classic and standard TLE are also good values...there's dozens of models and configurations out there,you really can't go wrong with any of the major brands. Basically you need to shop around and find the one you want, rent or borrow the ones you like if you can. Trusting an internet poll is probably not the best way to go,after all,"Other" is the winner so far:) .
     
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