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What About State's Rights?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by InkEd, Jan 16, 2013.

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  1. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

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    TN and WY both have proposed legislation defying any further restrictions being looked at by the legislatures.
     
  2. oneounceload

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    Bushpilot, I grew up in NYC and went to college in Atlanta at a time when the gun control was strict, so yes I know. You seem to overlook what I have said over and over, that ability to change would NOT be upto the council but put before the voting public in accordance with that state's regs regarding making major changes, which typically calls for signed petitions, an initial vote, and than a second vote after a good period of time
     
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    As has MO.
     
  4. Bushpilot

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    oneonceload, I'm not overlooking what you said. What you are proposing is a direct vote type of democracy. I am just not in favor of direct vote, democracy on issues that involve my rights or the rights of others… Go back and read what Halal Pork said… He explained it better than I have been able too…. “a majority voting to violate the civil rights or property rights of a minority is not a desirable result in spite of being democratic.” Ever hear the joke about 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner? That is pure democracy in action and yet still ends in the rights of the sheep being violated… What you propose would no doubt benefit gun owners in some states but could be potentially disastrous for the rights of gun owners in other states… As I said before, I think we all need to stick together on this issue…
     
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    So you would rather the Congress do the direct voting where they do not have to listen to input from anyone, and where the lobbyists and media groups can easily sway them....OK, I will disagree and end it at that. You seem to trust the federal government to do the right thing - I choose to believe they will do everything to subvert any and all powers from individuals and states to strengthen their own power, making them immune to protests, or even being removed from office.

    This thread is done for me - thanks for the fun discussion, though - I enjoyed it, but now we are just going in circles
     
  6. pendennis

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    Without belaboring the point, we don't live in a "Democratic Republic". We live in a "Federated Republic". There's a huge difference.

    East Germany was a "Democratic Republic". As is the Congo.
     
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    The thread has drifted too far from a discussion of firearm law into a discussion of political theory. That's off topic here.
     
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