Yes, because I am against a law requiring gun classes, I must be opposed to their very existence. Just like because I am against government imposed charity, I must hate poor people.
Please, deal with the argument.
Honestly, I do not think there are lots of people who think it's ok to shoot people because of a disagreement. Just like I don't think there are lots of people who think it's ok to run me over with a car. People know if you kill or attack someone, you will be punished. People know it's NOT OK.
I do think people should take safety classes. I think people should be responsible.
I think that people who cannot form a coherent argument should not be allowed to vote until they have learned to do so. Yet we do not bar such people from voting.
Simply because something is a good idea does not mean it should be law. Simply because you think people should take gun safety doesn't mean that you can restrict their rights until they have passed a course. They had laws like this about voting in the south. Is voting more sacrosanct than the second amendment?
Voting does not physically affect you or others
I asked you not to take my statements into the realm of absurdity.
never have I said: you hate poor people, or any such nonsense.
I asked if you thought ccw classes were "acceptable".
If you don't think that people shoot each other over disagreements you only need to look at the "qustionable shooting" threads and the "so & so got shot" threads on THR.
You see it as restricting your rights I see it as a reasonable step towards taking on an awesome responsibility. I am NOT advocating anything more than a few hours to learn basic gun handling and carrying skills. Not qualifying, not taking the gun apart, not registering the gun, no waiting period.
I also am under no illusion that these will prevent people from killing others or having accidents.
I think that this thread has turned into a absolutist vs. realist argument. Let's just say that we won't convince each other and leave it at that.
Example: A young, single female lives alone and has never expressed any interest in firearms. Suddenly, an ex-boyfriend begins making serious death threats to her. She decides that she needs a gun to protect herself from his crazy threats. BUT, if she has not taken a safety class and the next class won't be offered until the fourth Wednesday of next month, she could very well be dead before she could purchase a gun to defend herself with.
No system is perfect. The law could be made to say that classes must be given the same day. The young woman could stay at a hotel, find a friend who has a gun, etc.
I could just as easily give an example where a young man buys a gun leaves the store, loads and accidentally shoots his girlfriend in the car because of his ignorance. What we are discussing here are "reasonable" steps to prevent either of these scenarios from happening. Like I said no system is perfect
