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What are some good pro-gun countries?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Skribs, Dec 27, 2012.

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  1. Skribs

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    I know some bad ones (UK and Australia) and I've heard Switzerland is good. Most of the discussion on THR I see centers around different states, how do different countries fair in their lack of gun control?
     
  2. Ms_Dragon

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    Here are the gun laws of my home state here in Australia.

    http://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/

    Restrictive.
    Expensive.
    Invasive.

    Here in this country they like to try to tell me that a woman who is raped and strangled with her own underware is morally superior to a woman who has to explain to an officer why her attacker has a bullet hole in his chest.

    Let me tell you, right here and right now, as a petite woman who has suffered a rape if I was allowed to carry an "equalizer" I would have damned well used it on my attacker.
     
  3. joeschmoe

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    "Allowed" seems like such a strange word in that sentence.

    If you replaced the word "free", it would make more sense.

    IF you were "free". You're not free.
     
  4. Ms_Dragon

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    I am not "allowed" to carry a handgun in this country.

    It seems "strange" to me why you are nit picking such a trivial choice of words when there is so much more at stake.

    My story isn't unique here and it's what your wives, daughters, grand daughters, sisters, aunts and grand mothers are facing if the gun ban is made law.

    You're much better employed using your resources and your bandwidth to e-mailing you local and state reps.

    Thanks.
     
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  5. Trent

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    Ms Dragon;

    I see you joined about a week ago.

    What made you "get active"? Do you see something happening in the US that compelled you to get involved?

    For what it's worth, I welcome your insight and input.
     
  6. Ms_Dragon

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    @ Trent.

    Thank you for your welcome.

    I was pointed in this direction by my Sweetie who is a highly decorated, but retired, scout sniper.
    He would move here to Australia in a heart beat if Australian laws allowed him to bring and keep the tools he earns his living with. *weapons instructor*

    Yes I got active because I'm loath to see your countrymen and women fall for the lies your politicians are telling you.
    Learn from the Australian example.

    I'm a living (thankfully) and breathing example of the sort of violence that happens when an attacker knows that his victim is helpless.

    Here in Australia there has been a marked increase in violent assaults since the ban.
    http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/australia-more-violent-crime-despite-gun-ban/question-3401255/

    I fully admit that this article was published in 2009 BUT this trend of assaults hasn't shown any signs of lessening.
    If anything it's gotten worse.

    Banning guns is NOT an answer to reducing assaults.
    The Australian example proves that.
     
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    Sorry that link goes nowhere for me.

    Your Country has the best Gun laws in the English speaking world.
    I hope you can keep it that way
     
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    Skribs, A friend who moved to Panama tells me that background checks are required for all gun purchases but if you're allowed to purchase it you're allowed to carry it concealed. No restrictions on "assault weapons" but open carry is prohibited for non-uniformed personnel.

    Ms. Dragon, vote with your feet! Move over here! We can use all the responsible gun owners we can get. I don't know what job field you're in but housing (thanks to Obamanomics) is pretty cheap.
     
  11. Chunky

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    Don't know about MsDragon, but got news for you guys.
    Unless you're married or related to someone in the US, or have pots of cash, you aren't getting a greencard!
     
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    The countries with the laxest gun laws also tend to be countries, at least at the moment, engaged in some form of warfare and/or civil unrest - like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia and a host of other third world nations. If the OP is meaning first world countries with a semblance of civilization, than Switzerland, Canada, Uruguay, Costa Rica, and several others come to mind. They may not be as "free" as Arizona but they pretty much leave things alone
     
  13. joeschmoe

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    I think you misunderstand my intention. I apologize if I caused offense.
    I am not only sympathetic to your issue, but I was making a point of perspective, not just nitpicking language. i.e. your freedom has been taken from you. It should not be a question of what you or I are "allowed". We in the US do not believe the government can take these freedoms, legally. It should not be a question of "allowed". That's not up to the government to allow or not. The government is not "allowed" to restrict these freedoms. That's what freedom means. It's not a privligage that can be "allowed" or restricted. It is a right that cannot be taken from us. We restrict our government. The government does not "allow" us our rights.
    If we fall into the same trap of the government choosing what is "allowed" then we will suffer the same fate as you. If we insist on our freedoms, the the government does not get to decide which of our freedoms they will "allow".

    Any gun "ban" would be unConstitutional and we would hope for our Supreme Court to quickly strike it down as illegal.
     
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    Link corrected.
     
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    Switzerland
     
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    Right ... GOOD LUCK becoming a citizen of Switzerland. Unless you are rich, and can PROVE you will sustain said high income, it's never going to happen.

    Italy isn't that bad on guns. 10 round mag cap, no "military calibers", and a limit on the number of handguns a private citizen can own (something close to a dozen :rolleyes:) are the worst of it. And you may actually be able to become a citizen some day.
     
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    Wrong on Switzerland, all you need is a job or proof of income like a pension. Cost may be an issue, but Europe has always been more expensive.

    Look at the Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, Argentina, Ecuador, Paraguay, Uruguay, Columbia, New Zealand.

    NZ sells full autos and suppressors, but the costs for reloading supplies is 5X here
     
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    Being Swiss citizen is easier than getting swiss ccw..
     
  19. oneounceload

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    But then again, you really don't need a ccw in Switzerland
     
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    Patagonia! Not sure which side is good these days though.
     
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    Unless you want to buy AKs at the local bizarre this country is probably the best one.
     
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    Heed this advice!
     
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    Why? Some pf us might actually WANT to move somewhere else, and guns would NOT be the deciding factor, but a nice consideration
     
  25. msb45

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    Definition of Irony

    US troops in some crappy country ending in 'stan watching people walk down the street with slinged FULL AUTO AK47s (not clones) protecting their freedom no questions asked.

    Vs.

    US government doing everything to rip your guns out of your hands or limiting so much as to be pointless. :banghead:

    South America may be looking better next year.
     
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