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What are the range qualification requirements in your state for CCW?

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  1. Ukraine Train

    Ukraine Train Member

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    Since I haven't yet heard what the requirements will be in Ohio, I was wondering what they are in other states. I'm asking specifically about the range part, not lecture/application process, etc.
     
  2. El Tejon

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    Indiana: None.
     
  3. Doug444

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    Utah (Correia, correct me if I'm not quite right) - demonstrate proficiency with type of carry firearm (revolver and/or semi-auto). No caliber or distance or % of hits specified.
     
  4. hillbilly

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    In Arkansas, there is no set standard, but it is left up to the discretion of the instructor.

    What I use for my own classes is to have the students fire at a piece of typing paper or printer paper, from a distance of 7 yards.

    They fire with their handgun filled to capacity...either all cylinder chambers or a full magazine.

    They "qualify" in my class if they have an 80% hit rate with their gun on that sheet of typing paper from 7 yards. And a hit on the paper is a hit.

    And I round up. Eighty percent of a six shooter would be 4.8 hits, which rounds up to five hits.

    In my course, the "qualification" is the very last thing the students shoot.

    Before they "qualify" they have shot many rounds from at least three different distances, from different positions,with two hands and with one hand and under time pressure.

    If there is time, they even shoot a little weak hand.

    And with qualification they get to shoot as many targets as it takes to qualify. I have so far had only a very few students who took two chances to qualify.

    I take the qualification targets, have the students sign and date them, record the make and model of the handgun and the caliber, and then file them. The qualification targets do not have to go to any state agency or anything like that.

    But I absolutely keep a record that specific students have fired specific handguns at 7 yards and got a specific number of hits in my class.

    hillbilly
     
  5. Hawk

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    Range Qualification for Texas CHL

    A total of 50 rounds are fired during the course of the qualification test.
    A score of 70%, or 175 points of a possible 250, is required to pass.
    The target used is a TX-PT which is a human-shaped silhouette target measuring 45 by 24 inches.

    All shooting is from the ready position, which means the gun is already in your hands and aimed in._

    No holster shooting or shooting from concealed is required.

    Course of Fire: 3 yard line - 20 shots:
    1 shot in 2 seconds,_ 5 times
    2 shots in 3 seconds, 5 times
    5 shots in 10 seconds, once

    7 yard line - 20 shots:
    5 shots in 10 seconds, once
    1 shot in 3 seconds,_ 5 times
    2 shots in 4 seconds,_ once
    3 shots in 6 seconds,_ once
    5 shots in 15 seconds, once

    15 yard line - 10 shots:
    2 shots in 6 seconds,_ once
    3 shots in 9 seconds,_ once
    5 shots in 15 seconds, once

    The TX-PT target is 45" high by 24" wide._ The inner scoring ring is approximately 12" in diameter and counts 5 points._ Shots within the the next scoring ring count 4 points, and hits in the outer target zone count 3 points._ Shots falling outside of the sihouette outline do not count.
     
  6. P95Carry

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    Here NONE!! From a ''rights'' standpoint that is good ...

    But from a practical viewpoint ... could well be there are one or two people here and there could do with some basics first, but not to the level and cost that are extant in some areas!!

    Ensuring knowledge of the four rules I do think is good for everyone.
     
  7. scbair

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    50 rounds; 10 at 3 yds, 10 at 5 yards, 10 at 7 yards, 10 at 10 yds, 5 at 12 yards and 5 at 15 yards. Any hit in the body (not just the scoring rings) of a B27 silhouette counts. Minimum of 35 hits (70%) to qualify.

    The time limits are so generous, I could probably qualify with a double barreled derringer. :scrutiny:

    Anyone who fails to qualify doesn't need to be anywhere near a loaded firearm. :what:
     
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    TQ15 target, 5 rounds at 5 yards, (anywhere in outer scoring circle good), then 5 rounds at 10 yards. Patheticly easy, and yet I have seen some fail!
     
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    pax
     
  10. Shootcraps

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    In Virginia, you must take a training course in firing a handgun. No minimum number of shots. NRA Training Courses, Military Training (specifically with a handgun, not just a rifle) and the State Certified class for Armed Security Guards are all valid. The class has to have been within the last 10 years.
     
  11. Jay Kominek

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    No specific range requirements. But your instructor needs to be a law enforcement or military firearms instructor, or certified by a national nonprofit that operates competitions and training. (Are there any groups like that besides the NRA?)

    Most people probably take NRA Basic Pistol, which is, uh, 75% on 20 shots at a paper plate from 10 feet away? Something like that.
     
  12. Smoke

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    Hawk has the TX requirements correct, let me add this editorial comment.

    You can be a lousy shot and easily pass. As a matter of fact if you are good from the 3 and 7 yard lines....you can then put all your rounds in the dirt and still pass.

    Why have a shooting requirement if it is so dang easy?

    Smoke
     
  13. TarpleyG

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    In Florida, it's a joke. All that is required is that you can demonstrate that you can safely "discharge" a firearm. No test, no qualification, nothing. Just stand there and pull the trigger, once. You just have to sit through a class. If they are going to make it that easy, do away with it altogether. That's the way it should be anyhow. I am waiting for VT style carry here.

    GT
     
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    You must have completed a MA State Police Approved Safety course (like NRA Basic Pistol), but then it's up to the police chief in your town/city. They can ask for anything, like Club membership, character letters from business owners, your own letter stating reasons why you should be issued a license, written tests. Then it's at the discretion of the licensing authority; you can be denied with a simple statement, "unsuitable person".
    There is LTC-B, LTC-A (high capacity), and LTC-A can be restricted to things like, Target & Hunting, Personal Protection, or whatever they can think up. Some towns do issue All Lawful Purpose LTC-A.
    Boston has a required course of fire by appointment only, at the police range, using their revolvers, double & single action, target & distance specified with min. scores. Then, of course, they can deny your application, after you paid the $100.
     
  15. SMLE

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    Here are the relevant passages from the NM rules.
    The NM Statute and rules can be found here: http://www.dps.nm.org/faq/concealed_weapon.htm

     
  16. HunterGatherer

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    Washington = No such thing.
     
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    Alabama = none.
     
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    anyone have the requirements for Oregon? i'm in Washington and i fly down to OR often and would like to get a permit in that state too so i can carry and don't have to leave my gun the plane.

    Bobby
     
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    Doug444,

    You're almost right. You do have to demonstrate proficiency with the mechanics of an automatic and/or revolver but that does mean that it is necessary to fire a weapon. Many CCW instructors do not require any range time at all to certify your application. Some do.
     
  22. Gray Peterson

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    Oregon's requirement is a certificate that you've been taught how to handle a handgun safely. No range requirement. I used my Florida training where I actually shot a handgun once safely, and it worked for Oregon (I still haven't gotten my Florida one yet).
     
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    4 hours range instruction
    8 hours classroom

    15 rounds in a 8 1/2 piece of paper
    minumim 30 rounds fired
     
  24. Trebor

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    Umn, that's not correct. The instruction is required to be 8 hours total, including 3 hours on the range, not 8 + 4.

    The 30 rounds minimum is specified in the law, BUT the instructor must also conduct the class in accordance with the "national or state training organization" that certified the instructor. In Michigan, that essentially means the NRA. The only NRA course with a curriculum that meets Michigan requirements is the "Personal Protection in the Home" course.

    The COF for PPITH requires 96 rounds at ranges from 3 yards to 7 yards. This means that any instructor who teaches PPITH, but only requires the students to shoot 30 rounds, is not teaching the class according to NRA guidelines and thus the class technically does NOT meet Michigan standards.

    The NRA Basic Pistol ccourse does not normally meet the requirements for a Michigan CCW because the standard course does not include a legal portion. Some instructors do use the course for CCW classes by adding a legal section themselves. Surprsingly, the NRA has said that this is OK, although I do not think it is the best practice.
     
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    MN: Instructor's discretion.
     
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