What are you doing people?

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What are you doing people?

Don't know about everyone else but I am enjoying the holidays and my time away from work. Enjoyed my morning coffee as on holidays and weekends my wife grinds fresh beans for coffee. Waiting for a snow storm to roll in but don't much care as we are home from Columbus, Ohio and visiting family yesterday. Plenty of food and ready for whatever the weather brings. Head to the puppy hotel shortly and pick up the dogs before the weather gets ugly.

I may sort some brass later for cleaning with a focus on my .223 and .308 stash. Trying to decide after coffee if I want to hit the Angry Orchard cider stash or start on some Stella Artois (decisions, decisions).

As to the gun nightmare I am not doing a damn thing. I have my guns and do not plan to sell or buy anything. Nothing AR in nature anyway. My wife did get me another Colt Government 1911 for Christmas so that was sweet. Maybe tomorrow or Friday a trip to the range but beyond that what am I doing? Nothing, and I like doing nothing. :)

Oh yes, I should add I am burned out with the entire stream of gun pricing arguments. :)

Ron
 
Let those in a panic spend their money if they want to. I track a few items just as a barometer of the market, I'd like a Glock sub 2000 so that's one of them. One poor soul just bought one on GB for $1175. Unreal. But the next two I was tracking went for $480 which is about right. Is the panic over? I don't know but it doesn't seem to be lasting too long. Ammo will just have to catch up on production. Many sites are backordered 4-5 weeks but are still showing current pricing. There are still reasonable deals to be had but they are harder to find. Check out Armory.com . Even 7.62x54r milsurp has been running high ($100 for 440), Armory still has it in stock at "normal" pricing, about $75 for 440. Meanwhile I'm still waiting for my ZK22 stock that is late. Hoping to get it on the market before it all dies down.
 
What am I doing ?

Dry firing, hoarding (Ok, more like scrounging.) and prepping.
"Nothing, and I like doing nothing."

I like your styles haha. Truth be told I'm doing nothing also, sitting here watching the gun storm. "Freaking out" a little yes, Why? Because I love guns they are a big part of my life and I just hate seeing stuff like this. Capitalism: an item is only worth what someone will pay for it, very true, but to this guy it's not worth that much. I've never been one to jump on a band wagon. A few months back I bought 20 FDE Pmags for $10 ea brand new from Ellet Brothers. Do I need all 20? Maybe not! Am I going to sell 10 of them at $30 a piece? No!
 
Paying $2000. for a $500. AR is probably a person who has more money than sense or someone, not into firearms in a panic to get one while they can. IF this blows over in a year lots of bargains will be available. The gun owners I know have what they need, AR or not.
 
Sadly, it looks like I'm the only one who gets your point. I've ranted about this for the last two days, and I'm alone.

Selling ARs at ridiculous prices in the wake of tragedy.
Trying to make money off of sheep instead of arming the fellow man at FAIR price.
Using the minute utterings of AWB as an excuse to unload crap ARs at costs beyond even highly sought after brands.
None of this is bothersome?

Foolish capatilism, Sleepyone, is that practiced by fools behaving thusly. The antis can look at this and say "wow, threaten to take away liberties, and they screw each other in gun resale!"

That's not resourceful, that's buying Manhattan for a handful of beads. Plain wrong.
I need arming at a fair price. What do you have to sell me ?
 
Threads like this always digress into a who is screwing who with prices. I figure it this way and figured it this way always. Any gun on any given day is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. No more and no less. Yes, it really is just that simple.

If someone sells their $600 Bushmaster for $1,200 or even $1,800 it matters not as long as the buyer is content and happy with the price they pay and the seller is happy with what they got. It's between a seller and a buyer plain and simple and not at all my concern or business. Long as both parties to a sale are happy with the deal matters not to me in the least. Nobody designated me as protector of the stupid far as I know. My job is not saving people from themselves anymore than the US Government has a right to save me from myself as I like foods prepared in trans-fats.

As to my earlier post:

I may sort some brass later for cleaning with a focus on my .223 and .308 stash. Trying to decide after coffee if I want to hit the Angry Orchard cider stash or start on some Stella Artois (decisions, decisions).

I have advanced to Angry Orchard, I really like that stuff and for anyone in NE Ohio as you may have noticed it is snowing like hell outside. :)

Ron
 
I need arming at a fair price. What do you have to sell me ?

I'm afraid that you missed his point.

If you suddenly realized that you needed to be armed, then you may want to wait a year or so to get the fair price.
 
What I suspect will (is) happen is that prices will go thru the roof for a short time. The impressionable or desperate will pay way too much for stuff, ammo supplies will dry up...

And then folks will move on to something less depressing for a while. Prices will come back down for a short time when inflated sales stall. Then the new recommendations from Joe BiteMe will come out and things will go nuts again. Prices will jump again on things that end up with new regulation and spill over on to things that are not directly affected. Eventually it will balance out, affected items will remain high, unaffected items will drop back down, but likely not as quickly and not quite down to last month's prices. I suspect ammo prices will remain high for a few months even if it is not regulated just because the supply is currently low and people will still panic shop what they can get when the new stuff appears.

Basically if you want something black and scary looking you might want to watch closely and probably get the best deal you can in the next couple of weeks. If you are not desperate wait until late spring and buy one from a friend. We all know those guys, they have more than they could ever use of what they really know. I've got one friend who has literally a rack of high end ARs and a rack of Benellis. Locally I'm the 22 guy. Not a ton of profit in these, although people are clamoring for them right now. But if you are short on ammo you might be for a while unless you want to spend more than you want to on it. Luckily I spent quite a bit on ammo in the late part of the year. I'd like to claim it was all because I knew what was going to happen but of course that is BS. I just happened to be at that stage of prepping at the time. Got one scary one I'd still like (sub 2000) and a carry (KT P32), I shouldn't have any problem hooking those up without getting screwed.

In the mean time look to your friends. I just helped out a friend (Appleseed instructor) with a couple bricks of 22LR that won't really dent my stock. We'll barter it out later. He needed it now and I couldn't gouge him for it. Even if I did I wouldn't have been able to make enough on it to risk hurting our friendship. I'm sure if I needed something I don't have I could get my hands on it, the benefits of long term relationships with some very prepared people.
 
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I have been preparing for "this" for five years. No rush to the stores for me, but I would like to pick up some magazines (and not even 30 rounders).

What the heck is going through people's minds? In 6months none of this crap is going to be worth a 1/4 of what they are paying for it.

It just depends. But I am betting that you are close. I am not gambler or speculator. Lost a lot of bets in the past, so there you go...
 
I part time at a pawn shop and I can already see people coming in wanting $2k for their plain jane bushmaster. They are going to be very upset when I offer them what it's worth.

Let me see here.... a pawn shop actually offering what an item is worth..........LOL! I don't care who you are, that's funny, right there!
 
Originally Posted by meanmrmustard
Sadly, it looks like I'm the only one who gets your point. I've ranted about this for the last two days, and I'm alone.

Selling ARs at ridiculous prices in the wake of tragedy.
Trying to make money off of sheep instead of arming the fellow man at FAIR price.
Using the minute utterings of AWB as an excuse to unload crap ARs at costs beyond even highly sought after brands.
None of this is bothersome?

Foolish capatilism, Sleepyone, is that practiced by fools behaving thusly. The antis can look at this and say "wow, threaten to take away liberties, and they screw each other in gun resale!"

That's not resourceful, that's buying Manhattan for a handful of beads. Plain wrong.

Again, you are transferring the foolish behavior of people to Capitalism and thereby labeling our Capitalistic system as foolish. While I don't agree with people posting their crappy basic ARs for sale at 2-3 X their original price, I am not about to say we should call on the government to dictate what is a fair price. That would be the only way to control prices because I guarantee you businesses and individuals are always going to sell their product for the highest price they can. The market will determine what that "fair" price is. Are you ready to throw away Capitalism? That and our Representative form of government are the two hallmarks of our great nation. The two go hand in hand. Take those away and we just become another dictatorship with people living in gray cinderblock houses making bars of soap.

I get what you are saying. It makes me sick that people have been so unprepared and uninformed. It's not like we did not see this coming. We have had eight years to prepare for this.

A fool and his money are soon parted.
 
The only clear benefits of high prices right now are for those who sell at such price$.

Are people being Forced to buy any guns or gun components right now at very inflated prices?
 
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I agree, it seems a lot of people who were on the bump as to whether or not they should be doing a little prepping have just had their minds made up for them. Those in a panic will pay dearly if they decide to start right now. But it seems that our numbers have just taken a big jump.
 
I'm afraid that you missed his point.

If you suddenly realized that you needed to be armed, then you may want to wait a year or so to get the fair price.
...and if you need arming right now, your fellow Americans aren't ready to put a rifle or pistol in your hand unless its at a ridiculously high amount.

What if you don't have $3000 for the rifle you'd saved $1000 for in the first place.

Therefore, you'd be screwed.
 
if you need arming right now, your fellow Americans aren't ready to put a rifle or pistol in your hand unless its at a ridiculously high amount.

Not true. Hipoints haven't gone up, have they? You can still buy a 1911 or revolver at last months prices.
 
Not true. Hipoints haven't gone up, have they? You can still buy a 1911 or revolver at last months prices.
VERY true, considering we are discussing ARs, as stated in the OP. not pistol caliber carbines or handguns. I'm aware those have not risen in price just yet. They may or may not.

ARs have risen, become scarce, and i feel better armed with a S&W Sport with 30 round P mag than a 1911 with 7 rounds. Either is better than a sharp stick, but only one is the focus in this thread.
 
This is correct.

There are very affordable ways right now to be armed, without paying ridiculous prices. One simply has to look.
Unless you're on the same page as the OP, which you aren't, then you aren't armed with an AR if you can't afford it. Big mags, big accessories, big usages all across the board. I'd say the benefits of the AR outweigh PCCs, but that's off topic.

You don't need an AR to be considered armed, nor is someone any less effective with a PCC if they know how to use it effectively. But we are discussing the flock to the AR as of recent, a formidable rifle for defense, not handguns or rifles that shoot pistol rounds.

So, that being said, why the hell are people going crazy and trying to rob!!!
 
Selling ARs at ridiculous prices in the wake of tragedy.
No, they are selling at a rate at which the market has dictated.
Trying to make money off of sheep instead of arming the fellow man at FAIR price.
My job isn't to arm my neighbors or to sell my guns for what I paid for them. Making a profit when both buyer and seller are in agreement is not evil or wrong. Someone else's failure to plan does NOT constitute an emergency on my part.
Using the minute utterings of AWB as an excuse to unload crap ARs at costs beyond even highly sought after brands.
Who is forcing the hand of the buyer in ANY of these scenarios. I have something. You want it. I name my price...you can take it or leave it. How on earth is that wrong? Why should I sell to you (or anyone else) when 30 other people are lined up to double that offer? Sure, you might think I'm an alright guy for doing so, but I'd feel pretty dumb doing so, myself.
 
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