What are your thoughts on this case?
http://www.startribune.com/7-gun-ch...ed-felon-on-course-to-be-dismissed/470539593/
http://www.startribune.com/7-gun-ch...ed-felon-on-course-to-be-dismissed/470539593/
What are your thoughts on this illegal gun purchase case?
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badkarmamib
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So, he is an ACCUSED felon. How does that work, if you are innocent until proven guilty? I honestly don't know how the law works in that department.
Deus Machina
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Had he already been cleared?
Form 4473 box 11 b:
"Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year?"
Form 4473 box 11 b:
"Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year?"
justice06rr
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He has open case on felony charge (pending) and multiple gross-misdemeanors (whatever those may be) .
Although these may not have rang an alarm on the background checks of his gun purchases, moving forward he may not be able to buy.
It also stated that based on the result of these court cases, he may be banned from possessing firearms indefinitely.
Which all means nothing until we see the result of the court cases.
Although these may not have rang an alarm on the background checks of his gun purchases, moving forward he may not be able to buy.
It also stated that based on the result of these court cases, he may be banned from possessing firearms indefinitely.
Which all means nothing until we see the result of the court cases.
caribou
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In Alaska, once you have been charged as a felon and during such time, you cannot possess a firearm. You may win your case or have the charges dropped, but in the mean time, dispose of your firearms.
It's a state law charge, at least at this point:
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JohnBiltz
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I don't know but if I was his wife I'd be worried. You have a bitter divorce going on with assets being hidden and a guy running around buying 17 guns who evidently did not have any guns before since they were not mentioned.
Nailed it with the comment that something is rotten in MN.
MN is divided, much like our nation. Twin Cities, Duluth, Rochester vote and carry the rest of the state liberal. Meanwhile, the rest of the state is very much pro gun, same as 'fly over' United States. So like our national media, the major media from the large MN metro areas continuously print anti-gun, pro-abortion, anti-Trump stories to try and change the rest of MN.
This explains and answers some of the questions posted above.
MN is divided, much like our nation. Twin Cities, Duluth, Rochester vote and carry the rest of the state liberal. Meanwhile, the rest of the state is very much pro gun, same as 'fly over' United States. So like our national media, the major media from the large MN metro areas continuously print anti-gun, pro-abortion, anti-Trump stories to try and change the rest of MN.
This explains and answers some of the questions posted above.
BSA1
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Yep. Las Vegas immediately comes to mind.
Is it surprising that charges will be dropped on a liberal college professor in a liberal community?
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This guy is accused of committing what seems to be a very substantial financial crime against another person. If the law says your spouse gets marital property and you hide that property, that's a crime, and a felony in this guy's case.
Being formally accused of a felony makes you ineligible to buy guns. When you are arraigned on felony charges there is a long list of things you aren't permitted to do as well as a list of case-specific things you can't do, i.e. no contact orders, no drinking, etc.
I think it's absurd that nonviolent felonies are related to prohibitions on owning guns and that even being charged with a felony makes you prohibited, but that's what it is and it's no secret if you read someone's paperwork after their arraignment. He knew better, or at least was presented with the information to keep himself out of this exact situation.
How do I feel about this case? I think guns have nothing to do with the crime and shouldn't be at all linked to the punishment. In the case of nonviolent crimes, a prohibition on guns before conviction is a step too far, but we're also dealing with criminality and as I've said before...I don't like it, but I'm not going to waste much time making sure accused or convicted criminals don't get punished too much. It's just another part of the punishment - losing gun rights - and if you can't handle it, maybe don't commit, get charged with, and get convicted of felonies.
Being formally accused of a felony makes you ineligible to buy guns. When you are arraigned on felony charges there is a long list of things you aren't permitted to do as well as a list of case-specific things you can't do, i.e. no contact orders, no drinking, etc.
I think it's absurd that nonviolent felonies are related to prohibitions on owning guns and that even being charged with a felony makes you prohibited, but that's what it is and it's no secret if you read someone's paperwork after their arraignment. He knew better, or at least was presented with the information to keep himself out of this exact situation.
How do I feel about this case? I think guns have nothing to do with the crime and shouldn't be at all linked to the punishment. In the case of nonviolent crimes, a prohibition on guns before conviction is a step too far, but we're also dealing with criminality and as I've said before...I don't like it, but I'm not going to waste much time making sure accused or convicted criminals don't get punished too much. It's just another part of the punishment - losing gun rights - and if you can't handle it, maybe don't commit, get charged with, and get convicted of felonies.
So the guy was charged (by indictment or information, it's not clear which) with a felony. That makes it illegal under federal law, and possibly under Minnesota law as well, to buy guns. So why are people surprised that he got charged with illegally buying guns?
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