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What autoloading rifles are on the market?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Surefire, Jul 5, 2006.

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  1. Surefire

    Surefire Member

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    Has to be CA legal, and no ARs with fixed magazines (I don't understand the advantage of a fixed magazine for an autoloader)



    I can think of the following:

    Ruger Mini 14/30 (have a Mini-14, not too fond of the accuracy)

    Remington 7400 (no slide hold open I hear, thus not acceptable)

    Browning BAR (looks nice, don't know anything about it)

    Springfield M1A (would be an easy choice if not so pricey)

    I'd prefer a rifle chambering, such as .223, .243, or .308 (my goal is to standardize to only these chamberings).

    What other models am I missing? Which are good choices for 100 yard target shooting, and having around for a SHTF scenario?
     
  2. pcf

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    sks, minus bayonet and grenade launcher?
    Benelli R1.
    GARAND!
     
  3. roscoe

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    This is a much-chewed topic. We love talking about exactly this kind of thing (although you will have few offerings in .243). Try a search of SHTF in the rifle forums here and at TFL.

    For starters: SKS, SU16, Saiga, Garand, M1A, BAR, Mini 14/30, neutered ARs.
     
  4. dmckean44

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    Volquartsen Evolution, M1 Carbine, Ruger Deerfield 99/44, Stripper Clip fed FAL


    roscoe,

    Saiga isn't legal, it's listed.

    pcf,

    bayonets are cali legal.
     
  5. roscoe

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    I believe that older Saigas are listed, but not EAA or the newest imports, as they must be according to the law. You can doublecheck at calguns, and here, but I believe that this is the consensus.
     
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    M1 Carbine
    M1 Garand
    Keltec Su16 (a, and b and ca model)
     
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    I agree fixed-mag AR's are gay.. For now, the SKS fills my semi-auto needs. It's super cheap, reliable, fairly accurate, and can be loaded quickly with stipper clips. I'm gonna get a M1A one of these days. It's pricey, but it's the best thing we've got there. I think Mini-14's are overpriced and dont care to support Ruger anyway. I was considering a SU-16 for awhile, but I've heard they have a number of problems. If there's anything I hate, it's an unreliable firearm.
     
  8. aaronrkelly

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    In Cali I would say the Keltec SU16 family is your best bet.
     
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    Why not just build it without a pistol grip and flash suppressor, and then have your detachable magazine?

    Short of that, here is a list of Cali legal autoloaders that I can think of. I am sure there are more and many of the ones below might not fit your criteria, but some you might want to look at.

    Mini-14/30
    SU-16 A,B,CA
    Beretta RX4 (If it is made available to civilian sales)
    Ruger PC9/40
    Ruger Deerfield
    Marlan Camp 9/45
    M1 Garand
    M1 Carbine
    M1A
    M1941 Johnson
    SKS
    Volquartsen Evolution
    Modified FAL
    Rasheed
    Hakim
    FN49
    VZ-52/57
    SVT
    MAS49
    Ljungman
    BAR
    Benelli R1
    Remington 7400
    1919
    Vickers
    M-31 Suomi
    PPSH-41(This one and the Suomi might not be long enough for California if you get the versions from Military Gun Supply)
     
  10. roscoe

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    Oh yeah, the HK SL6 or SL7, if you got the dough. Beautiful rifles.
     
  11. Surefire

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    An AR without a pistol grip is a neutered AR, IMO. I'd rather just have an M1A than to build an AR without a pistol grip. YMMV
     
  12. Surefire

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    M1 Carbine...

    Who makes the best (or one of the best) M1 carbines?

    Looks like a nice handy medium range rifle?


    Anyone offer it with synethic stock?
     
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