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What battle rifle to get?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by The Exile, Mar 22, 2022.

  1. mavracer

    mavracer Member

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    That's the second biggest 3K is more than I have in both my AR10s.
     
  2. Ignition Override

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    Anybody “needing” a battle rifle- in the immed. future - shoot train on AK-74s etc, to fight in the true battle zones of Mariopol & Kiev suburbs.

    And be prepared to use a Javelin missile.

    But inside America: handsome Profit$ are earned by US businesses (some are linked to certain Youtube gun channels) selling accessorie$ for "future battles/wars" Inside the US.:(
    Your only battle will involve their struggle for your Wallet. ;) ---Dein Kampf geht um das Geld---
     
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  3. WrongHanded

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    Oh I hear yah. It's a lot of money.
     
  4. Nature Boy

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    My M1A scratched this itch until I caught the accuracy disease
     
  5. bfoosh006

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    FWIW, I have read numerous times that SCAR's are very hard on scopes.

    I also would prefer a Large Frame AR , over the 3 choices listed... The AR platform is like Legos. And aftermarket parts are all over the place.

    Granted a Large Frame AR isn't as simple as an AR15 , parts wise.... but I sure enjoy all mine. The accuracy of some of them is simply awesome. Good enough to show my flaws at the bench.
     
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  6. NIGHTLORD40K

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    FAL for cool.
    AR10 for WW3/CW2.
     
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  7. d2wing

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    I really liked shooting My BIL's FAL. Of those choices that's what I would pick. A fun gun but not accurate compared to either a M-14 or AR 10 type. SCAR checks the boxes but I would buy an AR-10 and maybe an M14 clone.
     
  8. Frostbite

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    I guess it doesn't exactly qualify as a battle rifle, but it is different and what I would get if it was possible over here: the Browning BAR MK 3 DBM.
     
  9. mshootnit

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    Sh$ Looks like a necessary accessory to me. Surprised HK hasnt pattented das boot
     
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  10. sarduy

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    I’m gonna go on a limb here and recommend you the New Zastava M77/Z77

    Zastava-M77-308-AK-and-M07-Bolt-Action-Rifle-1.jpg

     
  11. wiscoaster

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    I'm with the FAL folks.
     
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  12. d2wing

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    Hardly an object of desire. And a Vepr is better.
     
  13. gotboostvr

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    If you want a classic iron sighted battle rifle, I'd go with the FN FAL (or DSA clone). Maybe a M1A1 repro if that really speaks to you.

    If you want a more modern platform, an AR10. It'll be the best bang for your buck in any case.

    Although, a CMP Garand might be the best ping! for your penny.
     
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  14. ECVMatt

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    I think folks are referring to the initial sighting in of the rifle. You need to release the outer drum to adjust for elevation. Once sighted in correctly you can then rotate the drum for additional yardage.

    I found this helpful getting my rifle zeroed: https://savannaharsenal.com/2017/04/30/how-to-zero-hk-g3-mp5-ptr91/
     
  15. Pew-Pew

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    If the SCAR 17 is anything like the 16S, I'd pass. I handled a 16S yesterday and it felt cheap and did not feel good to me
     
  16. Ignition Override

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    ECVMatt: Earlier reports on PTRs usually indicated that the tool is needed to release the drum (diopter); they state that otherwise it can't be turned.
    Maybe I'm confused.

    Both of my PTRs might have been manufactured in 2020.
    Both were bought new-in-box "Buy Now" within the last 7-8 weeks, and the drums on them were easy to rotate with no tool - somewhat slow to turn but smooth. This was a bit of a surprise.
     
  17. The Exile

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    Oh I'm no wanna be commando, but is that not the term for full power semi-auto rifles? Anything that can make it through the US navy and maintain a reliable supply line is gonna need something bigger.. what kills Godzilla again?
     
  18. ECVMatt

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    It is kind of harder to explain than it is to do but there is a couple of locking knobs on the inside of the rear side drum. You use a tool or a pair of needle nose pliers to free the drum and make your elevation adjustments.I

    http://thinlineweapons.com/MG42/sight_adj.htm

    This might help.

    Once you have set your elevation you release the tabs And the site Is locked in place.At that point you can either use your 200 yd setting or the close quarters battle setting. If you were going to shoot the further you simply rotate the drum to 3 or 400 yds.

    The intro is lame but The rest of the video shows the accuracy potential of this rifle.

     
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  19. ms6852

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    I'm done fighting battles but if I gotta send young men to fight my battles I would send them with FAL's.
     
  20. sarduy

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    I can see the appealing, however a necked up 556 to take a 7mm bullet with a steel core and a soft open tip jacket would be my choice.
     
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  21. Robert

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    Between the FAL and G3, I'd pick the FAL all day. I mean, look at my pic... The FAL does have it's drawbacks though. It's not light, it's not the easiest rifle to put an optic on, and long strings of firing will make the fore end too hot to even begin to touch, and it's no match rifle.

    But, the charging handle is in the correct location, it's heavy enough to absorb some of the recoil but not so heavy it can't be carried easily enough, the ergos are second to none, the gas system is easily adjustable to suit factory or handloads, the iron sights are adequate, and it is as rugged and as beautiful as a B-52.

    I love mine. But it is what it is, a battle rifle. Mine will hold 2 moa or better all day long. I've made first round hits on torso sized steel out to 425y using the irons. It is a shooter. But it is not a precision rifle. If you want a semi auto precision buy an AR-10 of some flavor. But if you want a rugged, dependable, easy to use and maintain battle rifle, look no further than the FAL.
     
  22. AlexanderA

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    I have almost all of the rifles under discussion. My favorite is the FAL, in terms of sheer elegance.
     
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  23. Twisted Chemist

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    Go for the FAL, hands down. To qualify that opinion I will say I've never owned a G3, want one so bad I dream about it, but after shooting the G3 the FAL balances and handles much more naturally. Had a Leopold VIII 3.5x10 on mine for while, it shot great but unbalanced the rifle. However, a smaller lighter optic shouldn't have that effect. The irons are excellent, capable of hitting steel silhouettes out to 600 meters. (not for me, my old eyes need optics) Never had a malfunction, failure to extract, stove pipe, bolt hold open failure and this is with any mags it is fed. There is one problem for reloaders, they beat up brass and tend to throw it in no particular direction. I'd like another para model, but prices will have to go down before that happens.
     
  24. wiscoaster

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    View attachment 1067834

    DSA SA58.
    Nothing else need be said.

    Except....I'm 71; I'll likely never have to be in battle, but it was ever necessary, this is the battle rifle I'd want to have.
     
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  25. BreechFace

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    @wiscoaster thing of beauty!
     
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