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What caliber? .17? .223? 22-250?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by capman, Dec 16, 2006.

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  1. capman

    capman Member

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    I am fairly new to the rifle scene having only ever owned a .22, I have however fired a fair range of calibers. I would like to get set up with a target/varmint gun and am wondering what the best deal or value would be? Also what is the most versatile round?
     
  2. Outlaws

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    The best deal/value is the .223.
     
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  3. Jackal

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    That is not quite correct. 1 in 9" twist is the most versatile.
     
  4. Outlaws

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    :D

    I could have sworn 1 in 7" would shoot the lighter stuff too.
     
  5. RecoilRob

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    As far as 'best value/versatile' round goes, I'd vote for the 5.56/.223 as really hard to beat. As accurate as either .17 or .22-250 and much more available. Better range ability than the .17 and only down a handful of yards to the .22-250. Brass is much cheaper and the barrel life normally excellent.

    Twist rate is kind of dependant on the barrel lenght and how far you desire to reach out with it. The Ruger M77T has a 1in12 twist and really, really likes the 55grn and down bullets. Being a 26" helps get the velocity up and mine did OK with 62grns but not so well with heavier.

    The 1in9 twisters should be more tolerant of the heavier bullets, so long as a long barrel is being used to get the velocity up on the heaviest ones.

    1in7 works fine for the really long, heavy bullets but CAN over-spin the light ones...especially from a long barrel.

    I just bought a 1in9 24" rifle thinking that it was the best compromise in twist vs barrel length. But, if I was limited to a 16" tube, I'd probably go with the 1in7 as it would be more forgiving of the heavier bullets and still be able to shoot the lighter ones.....probably.
     
  6. db_tanker

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    cast another lot for the 223. :)

    Versatile, plentiful, and easy on barrels.

    If you reload, then you can throw together cast bullet loads that range down to 22 Mag, all the way up to 45-50 gr. 3600 fps varmint loads and faster, depending on the barrel/rifle combo.

    Even get it in a pistol, like a Contender...


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  7. rangerruck

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    the single best deal , for having 1 rifle , would be a 223. if you wanna combo them up, get a 17hmr for everything out to150, and then the 223 take over from there.
     
  8. ChairborneRanger

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    Another "vote" for the 5.56/.223. You just can't go wrong with it----a high performance, affordable, all-around cartridge.
     
  9. kart racer

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    I have a savage in 17 and ar in 223.The 223 can definitely be used in more situations.On small varmits,I think 150 yards is gonna be close to the realistic max range,maybe a little more.I know some people are going to dispute that on the 17,but it depends on what you're shooting.Out to 125 yards or so,which is the furthest I've shot mine,it's extremely accurate as long as the wind isn't blowing much.
    My ar isn't as accurate,but get a good bolt gun and it should be pretty close and you'll have a lot more usuable range in my opinion.
     
  10. gbran

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    I shoot .223 45gr varmint rounds out of my T/C Rifle with a 1:9 twist. These are white box rounds and I can't believe how accurate they are. Cheap too.
     
  11. The-Fly

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    The 17hm is a nice cartridge, but its definitely short ranged. I once nailed a p-dog with my 17 at 170-180 yards, but I also was giving it 2" of elevation. My AR in 223 does much better for the longer ranged stuff, my farthest kill with it was 280 yards on a P-dog in Wyoming.
     
  12. Essex County

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    Another vote for the .223 if you don't handload. If you do the 22-250 does have it's advantages. Essex
     
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    I'll cast my voter for the .223 as well. In fact , since last Dec. I aquired three new ones - Rem 700 LTR 20" 1in 9" , a Super 14 TC barrel and Savage 12BVSS 26" 1 in 9" twist.

    With the rifles I have only used bullets as light as 52 grains with excellent results. The 700 and the Savage both shoot the 69 Sierras with great accuracy. For the TC Super 14 I have used mainly 52 grain bullets so far.

    Even thought of adding a 4th .223 or installing a Lothar Walther 1 in 12" barrel on the Savage.
     
  14. theCZ

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    Another .223 fan here, but maybe for different reasons. I'm a handloader and if I ever wear out my .223s barrels I have an incredible amount of awesome wildcats to choose from. I hear Remington is making the 17 Mach 4 into a factory round, the 17 Rem. Fireball. I've also been curious about getting a new barrel in .19-223. Actually, not that I think of it, if you bought a .17 Rem you could do the same thing. I love my .223s, only thing I don't like is that I have a 1:12 twist barrel, I'd love to have a 1:7 and play around with the 80 grain Sierras.
     
  15. Squidward

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    .223. That is all...
     
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