Gunnerpalace
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To add to the speculation, he tested a Sig a while back in On-Target, and said he would add it to his carry line up or something like that.
What caliber and make does Ayoob carry these days?
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2ndamd
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Mas is very knowledgeable in the force continum. But, as a gun rights adocate I disagree with him on some issues.
Mas Once said that Open carry of a gun to gain acceptance in the public's eye; was like homosexuals practicing buggery in the streets.
Really? Now, come on Mas. Carrying a gun in the open is the same level of disgust as two people practicing sodomy in plain view? Really bad analogy there Mas. And, I could not disagree more. I am glad rural areas in this country do not find open carry so disgusting.
If he admits he was wrong on this one item? I think he gives very sound advice on other gun issues. But he is extremely wrong on open carry issues. IMO.
Mas Once said that Open carry of a gun to gain acceptance in the public's eye; was like homosexuals practicing buggery in the streets.
Really? Now, come on Mas. Carrying a gun in the open is the same level of disgust as two people practicing sodomy in plain view? Really bad analogy there Mas. And, I could not disagree more. I am glad rural areas in this country do not find open carry so disgusting.
If he admits he was wrong on this one item? I think he gives very sound advice on other gun issues. But he is extremely wrong on open carry issues. IMO.
Grey Morel
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True statement.
I have been open carrying a lot lately, and so far nobody has seemed to notice; maybe they just don't care. Most homosexuals wouldn't approve of relations in public for all the same reasons why most heterosexuals wouldn't approve of seeing a "strait" couple in public: Its downright lewd regardless of your orientation.
When i open carry, I say "hello" to everyone I come into close contact with and I say it in a friendly tone. I also tend to smile a friendly smile. The only time anyone has ever noticed my KelTec on my belt, the incident went like so:
* I pulled into a fueling station, and filled up my vehicle.
* I walked into the station house to pay
* A man who was inside speaking with the cashier notices my piece as i am paying. I saw him look at it.
* I smiled at him, said "good evening sir", and walked out of the station house.
* As I was starting up my car, he walked out of the station house and entered his car, which was parked much closer than mine.
* We both attempt to exit the lot at the same time.
* The other man waved me on in a friendly manner (no rude gesture)
* I smiled, waved back, and pulled out of the lot.
End of story. This wasn't out in the boonies either: It was in a residential neighborhood in a town of 60K people, with a town of 30K 10 minutes to the East, and another town of 120K people 15 minutes to the West.
I have been open carrying a lot lately, and so far nobody has seemed to notice; maybe they just don't care. Most homosexuals wouldn't approve of relations in public for all the same reasons why most heterosexuals wouldn't approve of seeing a "strait" couple in public: Its downright lewd regardless of your orientation.
When i open carry, I say "hello" to everyone I come into close contact with and I say it in a friendly tone. I also tend to smile a friendly smile. The only time anyone has ever noticed my KelTec on my belt, the incident went like so:
* I pulled into a fueling station, and filled up my vehicle.
* I walked into the station house to pay
* A man who was inside speaking with the cashier notices my piece as i am paying. I saw him look at it.
* I smiled at him, said "good evening sir", and walked out of the station house.
* As I was starting up my car, he walked out of the station house and entered his car, which was parked much closer than mine.
* We both attempt to exit the lot at the same time.
* The other man waved me on in a friendly manner (no rude gesture)
* I smiled, waved back, and pulled out of the lot.
End of story. This wasn't out in the boonies either: It was in a residential neighborhood in a town of 60K people, with a town of 30K 10 minutes to the East, and another town of 120K people 15 minutes to the West.
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I still follow his articles since the first one I read. It was about the SIG P220 and using it for self-defense.
It was my first gun purchase and he did not steer me wrong.
It was my first gun purchase and he did not steer me wrong.
Mad Magyar
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I don't believe he's that nonchalant about a carry piece. That goes against any principle of "practice what you carry" or "beware the man with one-gun". With his background, he could get away with it; but not a good example for his followers....
"to gain acceptance" is being likened to "buggery in the streets"...it's not the act, but the motivation. it's the difference between Grey Morel's actions when he excercices his right and someone who forces their views/opinion on others
threefeathers
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Look for yourself. This is during a break in the LFI class in April when he and I went outside to work with Jeff Randall from SWAT. Mas and Jeff were firing Jor R's Arms Tech Compak16 with supressor in full auto. Look closely and you'll see Mas's High Point on his hip.
threefeathers
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Or is that a Glock????
threefeathers
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Last October, after watching many of us shoot, Mas is begging us to take up fishing.
threefeathers
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This fellow was one of the top shooters of the April class. He was kind enough not to rub it in to one of his former Army NCO's who was there also.
2ndamd
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Open carry of a handgun is NOT forcing your view onto someone else. It is exercising your 2ndamd right.
Maybe freedom of speech could be viewed as dangerous as guns too? It is still a right.
No one should be allowed to pull their gun and walk around with it in their hand. Just as no one should be allowed to go into a movie theater and shout "FIRE!".
But, our discourse here is as tame and protected by the 1stamd as a holstered gun is protected by the 2ndamd.
heavyshooter
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Your disagreement was not the issue, it was the condecending manner in which you did it. You did not undermine Mr. Ayoob, you undermined the OP.
heavyshooter
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steveracer, I posted the above comment before reading your apology.
loop
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Who cares?
Zerodefect
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"who cares?"
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He seems to have good things to say 8 out of 10 times. No different than most any other gun nut or arfcommer. Whats the big deal.
I'd hope he carries the guns he's reviewing as thats a huge part of the review.......Carry is important, why else would I have a Glock on my belt instead of a 1911?
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He seems to have good things to say 8 out of 10 times. No different than most any other gun nut or arfcommer. Whats the big deal.
I'd hope he carries the guns he's reviewing as thats a huge part of the review.......Carry is important, why else would I have a Glock on my belt instead of a 1911?
verdun59
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It seems that you all care, or there wouldn't be 44 posts up here.
you missed my point...i agree with you, but i wouldn't do it just to claim acceptance much as i wouldn't pander to popular belief
i just don't think it is tactically advantagous
Guillermo
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I heard he turned into an anti-gun guy and trusts his safety to the kindness of strangers.
Guillermo
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Okay...that post was a joke
Like most of us, he probably rotates several guns.
This am I morning I am carrying a 38 snubby, yesterday a 380. This afternoon probably a 4 inch revolver. Why all the guns? Yesterday I was dressed in such a way that it was difficult to conceal. This morning it is easier. This afternoon I am going for a hike.
Like us it depends on where he is going and what he is doing, wearing.
Like most of us, he probably rotates several guns.
This am I morning I am carrying a 38 snubby, yesterday a 380. This afternoon probably a 4 inch revolver. Why all the guns? Yesterday I was dressed in such a way that it was difficult to conceal. This morning it is easier. This afternoon I am going for a hike.
Like us it depends on where he is going and what he is doing, wearing.
bluetopper
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I heed a LOT more of what Jerry Miculek has to say.
I'll put my money on Jerry with a revolver than Ayoob with........anything.
I'll put my money on Jerry with a revolver than Ayoob with........anything.
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