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What can Brown do for you

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by hornadylnl, Mar 21, 2008.

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  1. hornadylnl

    hornadylnl Member

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    Just got delivered today. 25k Wolf primers and 2 8#jugs of powder. I have 4 more 8's of 844 coming also.
     
  2. Walkalong

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    Well. That should hold you for a while. Brown can definitely be your friend. The days of the internet aren't all bad. :)
     
  3. NuJudge

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    Ummm . . . one small worry

    I have not used any of the Wolf Boxer primers, but the advertising from Widener's I've seen says that the Wolf with a thicker cup is what they recommend for .223:
    http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7283&dir=278|284|737
     
  4. paperpuncher49

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    And I quote: Brown can definitely be your friend.

    Brown can also be a bumbling idiot. I have been keeping stats on what I order. I have had packages torn open with stuff missing. I have had them come 2-3 days late because they were misrouted after coming into Florida. I have had packages "disappear" because the driver couldn't be bothered to drive up my driveway and left them at the foot of the driveway near the road where they were visible to all passers-by. I have had packages destroyed by mother nature's downpours for the same reason. Over the last 3 years, it happens just over 12% of the time. If you ran a business, would you accept an incompetency rate exceeding 12%?

    Fedex isn't much better. I always love the excuse "Driver could not locate your address." Funny, UPS delivers to me all the time. My house must camouflage itself on occassion. Frankly, I find I have less damage and faster delivery with priority mail. Brown is the color of something else, but in my recent experience, it surely is appropriate for UPS. I can remeber when they WERE better than the USPS, but not anymore.

    Anybody else get bad service from UPS?
     
  5. Walkalong

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    Agreed. They all can, but I have had great luck over the years.

    I have to admit, I have never seen that driver Quickdraw. I guess it's because I am at work when they come by. :)
     
  6. hornadylnl

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    If I had more cash on hand, I'd order as much of that powder as I could get in 1 hazmat fee for that price. I paid $101 each for the 8# jugs I bought. At the Sportsmans Warehouse here, it is $15.50 per pound.

    I was planning to use the Xterminator for 223. According to the Ramshot website http://www.ramshot.com/powders/loadguide/Ramshot_V4.2.2.pdf you can use it for 223. They also list tac as a 223 powder but don't show any loads using bullets heavier than 55 grains. They list Xterminator for 40 -63 grain bullets. I plan on loading several 62 grain surplus bullets. I've never used Ramshot powders but have never heard anything bad about them. At $88 per 8#, you can't buy surplus pull down powder for that. I couldn't think that the quality of Ramshot would be any worse than pulldown.
     
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    holly smoke quick draw i wish my driver looked like that. holly smoke
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  8. cpttango30

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    Man why do I always get the old guys with hair growing out of their ears and noses?
     
  9. RustyFN

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    Damn QD, if that's your driver then I'm moving to your neighborhood.
    Rusty
     
  10. kingpin008

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    No offense Quick Draw, but do remember - this is THR, and families with younger kids do sometimes read the forums. I know your post isn't exactly XXX-Rated, but you might want to tone it down next time.

    That said, she is pretty hot. :p
     
  11. karnaaj

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    One of my local gun stores used to get deliveries of guns from UPS that had tire tracks on the boxes. Seems that the driver was a rabid anti-gun nut. Somebody got video of him doing it now he is an unemployed rabid anti-gun nut who could very well face criminal charges.
     
  12. VonFatman

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    hornadylnl,
    Nice stash...I "bit the bullet" a week or so back...a friend and I took a road trip to Grafs and I picked up 4k small and another 4k large Wolf primers. So far I've loaded some .38 Special loads and found good chrono data.

    38 Special 148gr HBWCs (Zero Swagged)
    2.7gr Bullseye
    Win Small Primers
    Mixed Brass
    Flush seating

    Three 10 round strings:
    String One (1) Winchester Primers
    Low 736.6
    Hi 766.6
    Av 753.5
    ES 30.00
    SD 10.04

    745.9
    761.3
    755.7
    758.5
    736.6
    745.8
    745.4
    753.5
    766.6
    766.1

    String Two (2) Winchester Primers
    Low 738.1
    Hi 773.7
    Av 758.8
    ES 35.53
    SD 10.29

    762.1
    771.9
    754.8
    753.9
    738.1
    753.2
    754.4
    773.7
    768.9
    766.8

    String Three (3) Winchester Primers
    Low 724.6
    Hi 779.5
    Av 748.5
    ES 54.88
    SD 17.88

    779.5
    736.4
    759.0
    740.5
    733.7
    724.6
    766.7
    731.8
    751.3
    761.0

    Same load with Wolf primers:

    String One (1) Wolf Primers
    Low 760.6
    Hi 781.9
    Av 768.4
    ES 21.37
    SD 06.55

    763.2
    777.6
    766.5
    767.6
    767.6
    769.7
    768.1
    761.4
    760.6
    781.9

    String Two (2) Wolf Primers
    Low 733.4
    Hi 785.6
    Av 767.2
    ES 52.23
    SD 15.87

    762.3
    781.0
    781.3
    785.6
    733.4
    768.3
    773.4
    758.4
    775.2
    753.3

    String Three (3) Wolf Primers
    Low 735.1
    Hi 778.4
    Av 762.4
    ES 43.30
    SD 13.78

    746.4
    758.5
    778.4
    757.0
    769.5
    735.1
    771.3
    776.8
    759.0
    772.3
     
  13. bluetopper

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    Fatman, what length barrel were you shooting your wadcutters out of?

    I've been loading 2.8gr of Bullseye out of my 6'' barreled Smith model 14.
     
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