Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Fishbed77, Apr 23, 2013.
What's the difference between a 1911 and a 1911A1? I mean, what makes you say, "It's not a 1911, but it might be a 1911A1"?
Tang for grip safety
The stocks are Herretts, not Colt or Army.
Haha -no. Unfortunately, I only have access to this one crappy photo from the auctioneer's website.
I was just trying to figure out if it was worth my time to get up early on a Saturday morning!
I ran the serial number on Colt's website, and these hits (among many other non-1911 models) came up. Still a bit perplexed, as none of these seem to match this pistol.
1933 ACE MODEL .22
1929 SUPER .38 MODEL INCLUDING SUPER MATCH .38
1918 MODEL 1911 MILITARY
1912 MODEL 1911 MILITARY
Could it be a 1911 that was updated to 1911A1 standard? Would this have been done by a government armory? Thanks in advance for any help/guidance.
It could also be an early National Match "hard" slide, they were also marked with only the 7790314 contract number.
Article on them here:
No clue on the frame number.
The Argentine made 1911 and 1911-A1 pistols had serial numbers that used that font style.
An American made Colt commercial gun from that era would have a serial number that starts with a "C" as in C12345.
A USGI issue .45 made by any government contractor will have a serial that starts with "No" as in No12345.
Best guess: An Argentine military contract frame with a replacement American GI slide.
The gun screams "FAKE" & "Run Away!"
The slide is an Early Colt commercial someone has added a Canadian Arsenals replacement slide number onto the left side.
These slides were made in the late 70s early 80s as USGI replacements and were commonly used to build Match guns
No Colt made slides were ever marked with that 77 number I am aware of and certainly not in the era the slide was produced.
The frame numbers, at least the first two digits, look to be Argentine 1927 markings, the last two digits were stamped later and are missing the Serifs.
The trigger appears to be Argentine, as does the hammer.
Look closely at the mainspring housing. If the checkering is impressed instead of being raised, it is a dead giveaway the frame is from an Argentinian made pistol. HTH
I wouldn't call it a "fake" unless it is being passed off as something it is not. It IS a mixmaster but the parts are of good quality and it should be fine for shooting.
The numbers just don't look right for a 1933 production ACE receiver, the numbers look altered.
That is why I suggest looking at the mainspring housing.
If they just stamped some numbers to fool and weren't too careful in other areas,,,,,
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