Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by cowssurf, Apr 24, 2008.
Outside of the United States, what countries have the best pro-gun gun laws?
arn't the Swiss cool? I remember something to the effect more deaths from climbing accidents than murders?
I don't belive the Swiss have concealed carry, though.
The Republic of Texas is not bad. Only problem is we are currently occupied
Panama is fairly decent - aside from overpriced guns and (probably) ammo. Don't think there's any high-cap mag ban in place, no idea on full-autos. CC is allowed as soon as you get your pistol permit, IIRC. Pretty sure the pistol permit's shall-issue.
The Hawaiians have an annual throw the haoles (white guys) out event. They don't have too many guns so it doesn't work in their favor. What's your excuse?
Well we would like to thank the Republic of TX for sending so any brave young men and women to fight in the US military...
No concealed carry of course (well it's possible for some people under certain circumstances, but it's not common at all), but we have pretty good gunlaws in Luxembourg.
I don't think there are any particularly good countries for firearms...
Some countries don't have many laws, but they're yet developing and acquiring high quality arms and ammunition can be problematic.
Some countries have good arms and ammunition, but the law gets in the way.
Other countries have laws on the books but aren't enforced until it's convenient....
In the post-industrialized world, we are, gentlemen and the occasional lady, about as good as it gets.
For all of our imperfections, I am thankful.
But this is an interesting thread. I'd love to hear what some folks can come up with about foreign firearms laws. I might want to take a vacation someday with my significant others.
Once an American citizen becomes a resident in Guat,it is then possible to apply for and receive a weapons carry permit.
Hundreds of US citizens living in this beautiful,but somewhat dangerous country ,have them.
Most of the ex-patriate gringos live in San Jose and the outlying areas of Lake Atitlan.
Even visitors can manage carry permits,although with the Guat bureaucracy, this is almost impossible to do before your visit.
Application in San Jose is a necessity so plan on not receiving your permit until your second visit.Trying to get the paperwork done at a Guat Consulate or Embassy in the U.S. is a exercise in futulity.I've tried.Forget it ,unless you have Guat political connections.
Guatemalans move slowly,very slowly.And that is the charm of their country.Once there you sink back into the '50's.
If you go once you will go back.I've been there 4 times and will go again.
And if you go to the mountain market villages like Chichicastenango(Chichi)which is world famous,it's more like the1890's.I'll post some links.(hopefully)
Guatemala is the only Central American country that guarantees its citizens the right to bear arms.
http://linkedwords.com/se.php?kw=Guatemala gun permit
Mexico sucks. You cannot own any firearm that chambers any caliber used by the Mexican military:5.56x45mm, 9mm, 7.62x51mm, 12.7x99mm. Pistols can only be of caliber less than .380, excluding .357 mag. Possession of a rifle in a caliber larger than .22lr is severely restricted.
I'm in Roatan, Honduras right now, and i'm sleeping with a Glock 19 under my pillow, a Smith automatic something-or-other (459?) in the drawer right next to me, and almost everyone i know down here has rifles and shotguns, AND legally pack pistols !!! Can't say definatively what country's the best, but i CAN name you one that ain't the worst !!!
Yeah, when I was in Guatemala on a cruise recently I saw a gentlman open carrying a Springfield XD. Pretty sure he wasn't an active police officer because he was missing part of a leg and was on crutches.
Guatemala is a very poor contry, by the way. It was cool for me, though. My immediate family and I (four people) all got full "meals" at McDonald's for $4.00. I'm guessing that's probably a day's wage for the average person, though.
Iraq? Everyone seems to have one and I've seem film of some carrying hand held rocket and grenade launchers openly.
Not sure if it's legal but lots of people doing it.
yeah, middle east is probly the best.
middle east is a country right?
Just today I was at the doctors office waiting to get my muffler checked (another story) and I was reading in the Washington Times of a program in India that offers men a gun permit in return for being sterilized. It's been successful because it's the ultimate in macho (according to the article) for men to be able to open carry.
The problem is when you get outto most of the world (excludes US, Canada, Western Europe, Austrailia, New Zealand and Japan) just about everything gets done expeditiously with a bribe. While you may get something one day the government can change hands overnight and what you were legal with yesterday may get you rice and fish heads for the next 10 years.
As flawed as the system in the US is I think it's still the best bet.
No one's said the US yet... I'd say we have it pretty good over here (except California) compared to most people.
(quote) ".......that offers men a gun permit in return for being sterilized. "
Now there's a trend that should sweep the globe !!! Talk about a Win/Win situation !!!!
Somalia pretty much has it right......if you can get it.....you can carry/use/keep it......RPG, AK, .50cal, pistols.....carry whatever you want.....everyone else is.
Tribal border area of Pakistan
I read an article from a gun writer who relayed a story about getting into a Taxi in a country that had just recently become democratic. The cabbie had a pistol on the seat next to him. The writer asked if he could get in trouble for having a gun and the cabbie replied, "why would I?? This is a free country now!!"
Kind of says something doesn't it.
I know Norway has firearms registration but they also have the highest rate of personal firearms ownership in the world. They also have almost NO crime.
Let's keep it that way. Better still, let's double our efforts to improve it by:
Revokation of the 1986 Reagan Executive Order against registering newly manufactured class-3.
More CCW States
More Open Carry States
From the opening post:
Israel is pretty good... most homicide bombers find themselves face to face with an armed civilian almost all the time over there.
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