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What country would you move to with you firearms?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Sky, Nov 14, 2010.

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  1. Sky

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    We have the 2a and many own firearms for multiple reasons.

    If you were going to move out of country stay and possibly retire in your new adopted place where would you go?

    I would like to go back to Thailand but things have changed there and guns are pretty much a non viable option. Golfing is great as a compensator though. A few places in Europe look interesting with their cost of living for sure.

    Central and South America have a few spots that are interesting. Peru is wonderful but kinda hard to have a gun there.

    Just wondered what thoughts you might have?

    Hard to beat the good ole USA for many reasons:cool:
     
  2. Packman

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    My parents have considered retiring to New Zealand. I'm not crazy about the idea. You can have guns, but pretty much just "sporting guns." No AK's, and if I remember my research correctly, handguns are very hard to own legally.

    Also no Concealed Carry there.

    I'll stay in the USA. As bad as it might be sometimes, it's still the best place I know of.
     
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    I very much like the climate in the mountains of Colombia but know little about current firearm laws there. You can own firearms, but I have no idea of the red tape involved or if certain guns are restricted. I hear that Costa Rica is also a pretty interesing place. For the moment, I'll stay in the USA.
     
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    I suspect you'll need an export license from the State Department because of ITAR regulations even if the destination country welcomed guns.

    Hunter's who do regular safaris should be able to give you some idea of the hassle involved, but their guns are coming back with them, if you retire there, your's won't be.
     
  5. Golden_006

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    You'd be surprised how good we have it here compared with many other countries in regard to firearms -- even in Northeast / west coast non free states
     
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    As much as we gripe and moan, most of us still choose the U.S. I'd like the Mexican Carribbean but who do you trust your money(savings) with and how safe are you really?
    JT
     
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    Couldn't do it. I live in the greatest country on earth. You couldn't pay me to leave.
     
  8. mustang_steve

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    Why move? If the country sucks that bad, we failed at our job of keeping it great...thus need to fix our mess.
     
  9. X-Rap

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    I don't know of another that would let me and God should strike me dead should I want to.
     
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    What are gun laws like in Belgium, Germany, and the Netherlands? I would think places like those would have decent laws but I don't know.
     
  11. essayons21

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    I think the only countries you could find where you could enjoy as much firearm freedom are the countries which have little to no effective government. Yemen and Somalia come to mind. Sure they are sandflea infested hellholes, but you can buy full-auto AKs and RPGs for a few dollars American. Just don't let anyone know you are American.
     
  12. Sky

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    hahaahhehe Have not considered Somalia!

    It is not that I particularly want to move. There are so many great places in this country where one can enjoy one's life.

    I have lived overseas for 5 years at various times in my life and with the exception of the Mid-east and Viet Nam I enjoyed everyplace I lived.

    Costa Rica you leave you hire a guard to protect your property as of 5 years ago but do not know now.

    Columbia is beautiful and if you have the right connections life can be pretty good for now. Salvador and beach front property was a good deal 6 years ago.

    Panama City Panama has several places where you can live with other X-Pats.

    No freedom to be armed as we are in the USA. Cheap living yes and it is true if you have friends in high places all things become possible just like anyplace else.

    The Swiss are cool but to expensive to live there and to darn cold. Doubt we as a foreign devil could move in with our gun collection.
     
  13. Sky

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    This is not about cut and run.

    It is about our freedoms as a nation and where else could we be as free as we are here?
     
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    You can own an AK or any other Military style firearm in New Zealand, at least a semi-auto variety, or an auto version if the auto is disabled, you do need an endorsement on your license though. You can own but not shoot any auto firearm. You can own a handgun but they can only be shot at competitions like IPSC or ISSF.
     
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    Texas! :D
     
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    I've traveled a lot of the world and been to at least 4 continents and lived in several countries. We have it pretty good in the US. Most of the world lacks reliable running water, plumbing, electricity, security from police corruption, crime, etc.

    While there *may* be someplace more desirable from a hobby standpoint (SCUBA, golf, rock climbing, skiing, etc.), I would venture that the US is head and shoulders above the rest of the world for standard of living, peace, AND gun ownership. Most nations have very strict gun laws, including no military style arms, ammunition limits, no concealed carry, etc. with STIFF penalties. No surprise that you end up being an unarmed victim. In most states in the US, conversely, you can but nearly any gun from another individual without any government intrusion! While I vehemently disagree with most gun laws, the category of guns that are outlawed in the US are mainly guns that are *wants* and not *needs* or *must haves*. I can still own any weapon that would give me the best ability to defend myself (shotguns, long guns, and handguns). In short, the guns I own and can own are just a step down from what an infantry Soldier carries. I think you'd find nearly the entire world to be more restrictive. Locations that are less restrictive would probably be so lawless as to be quite dangerous (I'm thinking Africa or South America).

    There *might* be small pockets in Europe like Switzerland... not sure. But it would probably cost a small fortune to move there with all of your possessions. What would the point be?

    Just find the best place in the US for guns, your hobbies, weather, climate, location, etc. and move there. Then become active in politics, community, and vote and write you leaders in Government.

    Not sure where others are getting their New Zealand information from... when I was there in 2008 I found it to be extremely anti-gun and they were actively discussing outlawing PELLET GUNS!!! Private gun ownership was unheard of and locals would say "why would we want guns?" when I would engage them in conversation on the topic.
     
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    I have no desire to leave here but Switzerland would be my choice.

    Clutch
     
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    Czech Republic has concealed carry.
     
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    going to hold out till Texas or Montana becomes a country
     
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    I'd suspect most New Zealanders would be surprised at what you can legally buy in New Zealand.
     
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    I do live in the best place in the US... the mountains of east Tn. Only problem is, in the last 10 years or so, land developers have come in and dang near stole land from farmers. Then they turn around and throw up 300,000.00 homes to sell to retired execs from up north. They claim to love the way of life and the climate and all that. Next thing you know, they're into local gov. trying to change things.
    What country would I want to move to? None, I'll stay here and those that don't like our way of life... they can move!
     
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    Costa Rica for me....

    As for hiring a guard to keep squater from taking ur property away from you, this may or may not be a good idea(the guard will most likely be the one posted up in front of ur TV when u return and saying something like "you need to remember where you are") For this very reason, find a few more Westerners and get into something with them so that someones always around, it's ok to leave it for a month or so here and there.
     
  23. Sky

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    There are a few places in Europe where the cost of living is very attractive.
    I plan on going back to Thailand to visit for sure. The exchange rate is really good; around 30 Baht to the dollar.

    I actually was in a movie (The Great Friday) with Chris Mitchum and Olivia Hussey as a CIA agent which got killed rather quickly I might add. That is another story though.

    Quality of life for me at that time surpassed anything I have experienced since. But I like Oriental Food!

    Guns must be available for most of their murders are by guns? Crime rate is still low by western standards....Unfortunately all my contacts are retired or dead but I plan on going for a short stay.
     
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    God bless the u.s.a. Of america

    Love this Country of ours or leave it. You will soon find out that you want to come back!!!

    I love this country of ours, was bred and born here and I am lucky to be here.

    I will defend her until I breathe my last dying breath. GOD BLESS AMERICA Be Safe:neener:
     
  25. Sky

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    Yes my Costa Rico comment was because of a Flight Attendants folks who lived there. Again it is 6 year old info an things do change.
     
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