wolverine_173
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could i buy the breech lock system for the classic cast single stage press? Basically turning it into the classic breech lock?
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You know...I've heard this over and over, but I have to respectfully disagree. I spent about $400 on my Lee turret press, dies, case tumbler, etc. What I need to get started with one caliber. I calculated the cost of reloading versus buying loaded ammo, and my cost savings was about $10 a box. So MY break even point for this one caliber (like the OP is suggesting) was roughly 40 boxes, or 2,000 rounds of ammo. After that, I'd be saving the same $10 a box. I guess if you buy real expensive equipment and lots of extra cool toys, it would not be as quick of a break even. I just bought my 3rd set of dies and the 4 hole turret (so I only have to set the dies up once). This is how my costs worked out for reloading 9mm Luger, showing the first time, and then subsequent reloads (if you're starting with NO brass). Obviously the cost savings on other calibers is significantly higher:The cost of the reloading tools pales in comparison to the cost of buying the components, even if they are bought in bulk to reduce the unit cost.
I believe a lot of newcomers think reloading is a kind of magic solution to the high price of ammunition, even at lower quantities.
In general, this is false.
If you can shoot the same number of rounds after getting into reloading as before, and if this number is around 500/month or so, most will see a "break even" point after approximately a year. Cheaper calibers like 9mm take longer than more expensive calibers. (Estimate based on saving $0.20/round and a total cost, including components, of $1200. If you can get started with $600, break-even occurs sooner.)
The truth is, most simply shoot more after they get into reloading. Until it cuts into their food budget, kid's college fund, etc. Then they have to impose a limit.
So reloading doesn't save money. It just lets you shoot more.
Good. I'll be doing my first 9mm reloads tonight in fact. I've already reloaded 500 rounds of .45 ACP and 750 rounds of .38 special.i have already been saving brass
The one downside for a turret is you need to have all your stuff laid out on the table at once. This means primers, power, cases, bullets, and finished rounds, they all need to find a place around the press, and you're using all of them sequentially. And stopping to pour a charge down the top of your press every third/fourth pull of the lever would remove any benefit in speed/efficiency.The turret won't be as heavy duty, but allows you to run a round through all stages of the press sequentially, which reduces time handling the round and speeds things up significanly. You'd be much better off with a turret for 9mm, really. If you find one of those for $40, don't even hesitate.
You COULD. Here's how.could i buy the breech lock system for the classic cast single stage press? Basically turning it into the classic breech lock?
True, you have to have all your components close at hand. But I don't see that as a downside at all.The one downside for a turret is you need to have all your stuff laid out on the table at once. This means primers, power, cases, bullets, and finished rounds, they all need to find a place around the press, and you're using all of them sequentially.
I THINK I am in my right mind. But then, if I were crazy, would I know it?And stopping to pour a charge down the top of your press every third/fourth pull of the lever would remove any benefit in speed/efficiency.
No one in their right mind would use a turret press this way. So in addition to the press you need an automatic powder measure in the least. This one thing is what makes the turret press significantly faster than a SS. Without this powder drop, then it would be close to a wash. Most people use the Lee Safety Prime attachment, as well.
Not if you have more than one. Just leave it mounted on the die and empty the powder. They only cost about $25 each and a funnel, $4 (but the funnel takes no time at all to move to another set of dies).Now, when switching between loads, you also have to recalibrate and remount your powder drop each time.
??? It is a simple drop-in operation. It takes less than 5 seconds.And possibly change out the priming system.
Leftover loose primers? I have never seen one. Once I open a box (of 100) they find homes in the bottoms of cartridge cases before I quit for the day.So turret press isn't always the faster method. If you are a low volume shooter with multiple calibers, you might find a SS press is just the ticket. Heck, even just dealing with the storage and organization of the extra parts and the loading and the storage of leftover loose primers can eat up your time savings.