What do ya'll use for throwing powder for .380?

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  1. LivewireBlanco

    LivewireBlanco Member

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    Ok, I would like to use HP38/Win 231 for my .380 but I can't go low enough with my Lee Pro Auto disks. My smallest hole is 3.2gr and it's just a bit warm for the Lee 102 LRN bullet because I have to seat it a bit deeper for my P238. I've tried the Lee Perfect Powder Measure and at lower settings it's just not that reliable. How and what do ya'll use for dropping powder for your .380?
     
  2. joneb

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    I use a Redding model 3 with the micro pistol meter, works very well for throwing small charges.
    I forgot to mention It does not like large flake powders.
     
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    RCBS Uniflow with the small rotor
     
  4. rcmodel

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    I use one of three Lyman #55 powder measures.
    They will measure any amount of anything when properly adjusted.

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    BTW: The long tall one is an old Herters that has been left set on my .223 load without being changed for about 40 years!

    I keep on buying Lyman #55's for $15 bucks or so at gunshows every time I see one.

    rc
     
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    Nice homemade stand there RC!
     
  6. cfullgraf

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    I use a Redding 10-X for charging my 380 ACP cases.
     
  7. DanTheFarmer

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    LWB,

    I use the smallest disk on Lee Pro-Disk system with Bullseye and throw 3.0 grains which works well with my Berry's Plated 100 gr RN bullets (or 95 fmj's as well but I've now got a good supply of the Berry's.) I use Titegroup for 9mm and 45 ACP but my smallest disk throws too much powder for the 380.

    You can search this forum to see how clever people have modified their Pro-Disk systems to throw smaller chargers. One solution is to drill a hole in the side and screw in a machine screw so that it intrudes into the cavity. The more you screw it in, the smaller the powder charge thrown. Or you can switch to a bulkier powder (Bullseye and Power Pistol work for me but you can find others too).

    Good Luck.

    Dan
     
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    I think I'm going to try the knock off Micro-Disk that is being sold on E-bay. We will see how it works. If not, then I may end up trying Bullseye or some other powder if my LGS ever gets any in...
     
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    I used to weigh everything by hand with an old measuring spoon and/or trickle it. Luckily though, I now have a Hornady Autocharge.
     
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    Darn you already found it. I was also going to say I know the smallest cavity in the regular disk set throws a very very very consistent 3.0gr of 231/38 for me. Not sure if you need to go lower than that. I use that load for the Bayou Bullets 150 gr SWC in 9mm that seats halfway down into the case. Its a bunny fart load but hasn't had a cycling problem in my gun for over 400 rounds. Another option is do the bolt micrometer mod where you tap a disk for a bolt. I use a 1/4" bolt that's 1 1/2" long (any shorter and the hex head I'm using gets hung up on the bottom of the measure). Haven't tried it on the disk for my pistol loads but it has worked great so far for fine tuning 223 loads in the double disk set with a variety of powders.
     
  12. GT1

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    I just received one of the knock off micro disks, it is decent quality and looks like it will work fine. I don't have an original to compare.

    Since I have the auto-disk measure it was a no brainer.

    I am going to pick up my .380 today and do plan on HP-38(win231) for reloading it as well.
     
  13. GRIZ22

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    AI've found the Auto-Disk throws charges a bit lighter then they claim. This discrepancy varies so check it with a scale.
     
  14. LiveLife

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    I use Lee Perfect Powder Measure.

    Lowest setting? Before you buy the knock-off micro auto disk, you should try adjusting your LPP settings and make sure each drops are made with full "lock-to-lock" movement of the handle to not short-stroke.

    I just weighed 10 powder drops of W231/HP-38 at each 2.9, 2.7 and 2.5 gr charged and checked with Ohaus 10-10 - All the drops were within +/- 0.1 gr.

    Here's a close up picture of my LPP setting and I have plenty of adjustment "setting" left - count the number of threads (picture taken directly facing the LPP).

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  15. Bush Pilot

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    I don't load a ton of .380. When I do I use a Little Dandy from RCBS, fast and accurate.
     
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    RCBS Uniflow powder measure, very accurate for even small powder charges.
     
  17. ferges99

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    I too have loaded my thousands of rounds with a little dandy and bullseye powder. Works great
     
  18. Potatohead

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    I have to seat really deep for mine too. Ive only used one type of bullet though so i didnt know if it was the bullet or the bbl. Whats up w that?
     
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    Yes, the Little Dandy is a, well, dandy powder measure.:)

    It is the first powder measure that I used and I have most of the rotors for it. I got the rotors back in the day when they were inexpensive.

    Next run of 380 ACP, I need to think about using it again.
     
  20. Potatohead

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    I got to ticked off at 380, and havent messed with it in a while. Lee has my dies at the moment. But good question..

    Is their a measure thats considered the "best" Or a few that are? I'd sure like to know..
     
  21. LiveLife

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    For "general" recreational reloading, I think Lee Perfect Powder Measure is very workable.

    With that said, this is what The Rifleman's Journal (website dedicated to 1000 yard precision match shooting) had to say about LPP - http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2011/11/equipment-sartorius-gd503-evaluation.html
     
  22. mstreddy

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    Since OP asked what we throw our charges with -- For my 380 loads with Win231, 2.9 grains, I use the Hornady LNL powder measure that came with the LNL AP press. It's been very consistent.
     
  23. FROGO207

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    Like RC I use a Lyman 55 (Ideal) that looks like his orange one.;) IF you set it up with the proper spacing on the slides with regards to kernel size I have NEVER had a issue with inconsistent drops with ANY propellant FWIW.
    I even use it for charging 25 ACP rounds.
     
  24. SlowFuse

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    I'm going to come on top of BDS's post and suggest trying the Lee PPM again. I don't load 380 but do load 32 long with HP-38 at 2.3 grains with great consistency. I think you do need to have a methodical process when operating the drum handle. I usually give a tap to the drum when in the most extreme up and down positions. May not be necessary but it works.
     
  25. Potatohead

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    Sorry OP, shouldnt have veered off topic.
     
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