Pocket carry was the main idea but I didn't want to limit the thread to those guns only. I really wanted to hear what others carry and how they carry it. So no, the thread is open to all. I am looking for ideas. And those who posted links to specially built pants for CC gave me a whole new set of ideas. Right now I am hoping to be on the road to some weight loss since my new doctor gave new diabetes pills. Pills that are also supposed to be prescribed for weight loss. The other drugs I was taking added weight he told me. In just a couple of weeks I can already tell I have lost some bulk. So when I stabilize on waist size I can buy some new pants.