what do you think about these little trigger-things (for FA firing w/o paperwork...)

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hmm- seems like you need to turn a crank handle rather than pull the trigger on the GAT...
 
I am pretty shure the people who buy these things drive camaro's still have a mullet on their head and actually think Motley Crew rocks. :neener: Those devices are off the chart corny.
 
Those devices are off the chart corny.
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And off the chart crappy.

If you just have the crazy desire to waste a lot of ammo, google
a ridiculous thing called "bump firing". At least it doesn't require
buying some gizmo, just pants with belt loops.

For the record it does work, and it's totally worthless. I have witnessed
the act, and hid behind something thick while it was going on. :what:

Enjoy
 
Absolutely and completely worthless, useful only for making noise.

Many/most don't even work if you are using a proper firing grip and have the rifle tightly shouldered (the crank ones are especially silly).
 
There are worse ways to waste forty bucks than to get a nifty little crank thing to put on an AK to make it go "dakka-dakka!" just for the hell of it. You could even get a bipod and a 75 round drum and just "rock out" for the fun of it.

It is a gimmick, and nobody in their right mind would ever use crap like that for combat or otherwise important purposes, but damn, we hear people all the time buying guns just for fun, or for plinking, or because it was on sale, or because it had a nifty little widget in the stock, or for whatever other reason. Just kick back and have fun with the crazy gatling-trigger Ay-Kay.

~GnSx
 
GunnySkox said:
There are worse ways to waste forty bucks than to get a nifty little crank thing to put on an AK to make it go "dakka-dakka!" just for the hell of it. You could even get a bipod and a 75 round drum and just "rock out" for the fun of it.

It is a gimmick, and nobody in their right mind would ever use crap like that for combat or otherwise important purposes, but damn, we hear people all the time buying guns just for fun, or for plinking, or because it was on sale, or because it had a nifty little widget in the stock, or for whatever other reason. Just kick back and have fun with the crazy gatling-trigger Ay-Kay.

~GnSx
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+1. I couldn't have said it better, myself. Sure, they're useless for hunting, target shooting or self-defense. For just goofing around and having fun, though, why not? I can think of plenty of worse ways to spend $40.
 
krochus: I am pretty sure the people who buy these things drive Camaros, still have a mullet on their head, and actually think Motley Crew rocks.
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That's Motley Crue. :scrutiny: 'Least it's not Winger or Poison. :barf:

I would rather bump-fire, myself. :D
 
I got two of'em and only the TAC trigger I bought ever worked worth a damn,

The other,"Hell FIre Trigger attatchment", that I bought was the,"Tri burst", total garbage... I bought both mine with the exact idea of getting legal pseudo full auto fire for some grins, I mean for 29.00 I ddn't expect too much. Boy was I still disappointed:(. The TAC trigger adds a second trigger(in front of the other) that is fired by forward preassure as you release the,"normal" trigger, giving you a double tap. With a light trigger, I bet you could get a TAC trigger attatchment to hummmmm right along". You get two shots if you do it correctly. For 29.99+sh, I got a sheet metal band, a screw-on aluminum block to act as a fulcrum for the front trigger, and the lever(trigger) itself.

The TAC trigger will simulate full auto on my AR-15. I have to get it PERFECTLY installed, but if I do, I get a simulated full auto burst by barely squeezing the,"normal" trigger just past it's breaking point. The best burst I have gotten was a 5-6 shot burst, but they all eventually end the same. The hammer,"locks up tight", against the firing pin's shoulder(which is a good thing as it might go boom if it didn't:uhoh: ). I then have to recock the hammer while locking the bolt open and making sure nothing is left in the chamber(once a round was thrust from the mag into the chamber before everything locked up). When I get the bug, I do fire it every now and then, but the time I spend getting it perfect, and I mean PERFECT,+ the time I have to spend clearing stoppages, almost make it not worth it. But I see it as saving me money because if I had a real full auto, I would be broke(ummm, more broke).

PS- You shoulda seen my grin after that first burst of three shot forth from the barrel,it was probably worth the 29 bucks alone...Oh yeah it works from the shoulder if installed correctly but still won't burp more than 5-6;) :(
 
In my personal opinion I take range time very seriously, and use what little time I have wisely to make myself better, i personally think you aren't doing anything to improve yourself, by seeing how fast you can raddle off as many rds as possible. i think it is a waste of money in ammo, and the part and unnecessary milage on the weapon. totally takes away the fundamentals of marksmanship!
 
Remind me never to go to the range with you, then. :uhoh:

For me, shooting is a hobby, bordering on sport. Aside from safety, I don't take it too seriously--I'm not ever planning on having to fight urban warfare or make a 1000+ meter shot to take out a sniper who's going to kill me if I don't. Without those eventualities, it takes a lot off my mind and makes it a heckuva lot more enjoyable. I get to see if I can make a clay explode from 50m with my Bersa. I find out how many times I can make an empty bottle bounce consecutively. And sometimes, I see if I can get all my shots through one hole (which, unfortunately, only happens if I don't change the target out after a solid 400 rounds through the same one).

possum: In my personal opinion, I take range time very seriously and use what little time I have wisely to make myself better. I personally think you aren't doing anything to improve yourself by seeing how fast you can rattle off as many rounds as possible. I think it is a waste of money in ammo and unnecessary milage on the weapon. It totally takes away from the fundamentals of marksmanship!
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Have you ever heard of Jerry Miculek? :confused:
 
Didn't your ATF decide they were evil and ban them by regulation? They'll get you 10 years up here. Horribly evil, so they are.
 
Worthless gimmicks, good only for converting money into noise at a faster rate.

And sometimes, I see if I can get all my shots through one hole
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It'd be interesting to see how well you'd do that with the HellFire/TAC trigger thingies. Let us know if you manage to accomplish tight groups with your firearm so outfitted.


Have you ever heard of Jerry Miculek?
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Yup. Sure have. He got as good as he did squeezing one round off at a time like the rest of us, no HellFire triggers on his S&W revolvers, last I looked.
 
Wow. Some of you guys need to lighten up. Don't take yourselves so seriously. Yes, it's important to develop good riflery/marksmanship skills through disciplined practice, and no, these devices won't do that. Still, what's the harm in a little fun every now and then? Personally, I get a thrill out of starting and revving a powerful engine in a completely impractical car. You know -- the kind that thumps and roars so deep and so loud that you feel it in your chest more than you actually hear it. Does it offer any practical benefit to me? Nope. It sure gets my adrenaline flowing and puts a grin on my face, though.

This thread has been very useful for sorting out the guys I would have fun going shooting with, from those who'd are so uptight I'd rather go to the dentist than spend a day at the range with.
 
I guess these are in the same league as fireworks. Spend some money, make lots of noise, but really not good for anything except the "fun" factor

Hey, it's a free country (kinda). If you've got the $$$, knock yourself out

Got a deal for ya....you don't tell me how to spend my money and I won't tell you how to spend yours
 
Well, the original question was "What do you think about these things?" so the responses were honest opinions.

I like to have fun at the range as well, but (at least for me) the trigger gimmick wouldn't increase that. It's sort of like the Miracle Platinum Carburetor thingy--sounds good in theory, in practice it's junk, and it wouldn't make autocrossing any more fun.


(BTW--Gewehr98, you have a PM.)
 
My disdain for the darned things comes from the other side of the fence.

Working as a range officer, I saw bunches of those things, and they all had a common denominator: haphazard spraying of bullets, with very few actually staying on target or even inside the target frames. Often, shooters in adjacent firing positions had extra bullet holes on their targets, and more than a few times I could see dirt being kicked up on the ground or on berms 200-300 yards behind the berm they were supposed to be dumping their bullets into.

You want to bump-fire or use a HellFire trigger attachment? Fine. Do it on private property or out somewhere in the boondocks where nobody else is at risk from your cone of fire.
 
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You want to bump-fire or use a HellFire trigger attachment? Fine. Do it on private property or out somewhere in the boondocks where nobody else is at risk from your cone of fire.
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+1. I certainly won't disagree with you there. Those things have no place on a range. They are "back 40" toys only.
 
Keep in mine, ya'll, they put those warning labels (bullets can travel 2.5miles) on the box of .22LR's for a reason.
 
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