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What do you think is the best powder for

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by stoney1666, Apr 19, 2008.

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  1. stoney1666

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    3006 and 308? Planning on getting an 8# keg and don't want to get the wrong one.
     
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    What bullet weights are you thinking about using?
    That would make a huge differance in what is "best".

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  3. NuJudge

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    What type of rifle(s) are you going to fire them in?

    If it is in a Garand or other Semi-auto, I would suggest something like 4895 for 150 or 165/168 gr bullets. The burning rate is critical for the M1, and just important for most semi-autos.

    If in a bolt rifle, I like 4350 for the .30-'06 with 180 grain bullets. I've never seen a .30-'06 bolt rifle that would not shoot well with that combination.

    If the last little bit of performance is necessary and it is a a bolt rifle, I like Norma MRP with 180 grain bullets in the .30-'06.

    CDD
     
  4. ArchAngelCD

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    4895, 4350 or Varget will serve you well in a 30-06. Varget is a fairly new powder and will give you very good results with lighter bullets. The other 2 will work well across the board but 4350 will work best with heavier bullets. If you intend upon loading all different weight bullets 4895 is probably the best powder. Also, if you do buy 4895 I would suggest buying Hodgdon instead of IMR. Hodgdon 4895 will produce the same velocities with less pressure than IMR4895. It's very accurate too.
     
  5. cracked butt

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    You can't go wrong with IMR 4064 or Varget.
     
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    Like previously posted, IMR4350 works well with 150 grain and heavier bullets in the 30-06. For a powder that will work ok in both calibers you would do well with IMR4895 or IMR4064. Hodgdon H4895 also is a choice. Whichever you can find published data for with the bullet of your choice. Here's a pdf download that's free and useful for comparison. It's an IMR Handloaders Guide from when IMR published their own data before Hodgdon took over. Loads in the Guide are near maximum so follow their suggestion to reduce 10% and work up. (pistol,rifle, shotshell loads using IMR powders)
    http://www.imrpowder.com/pdf_reload.html
     
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    IMR 4895 or 4064.
     
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    I have found that imr 4350 is sensitive to temperature. A 20 degree difference can move the bullet on paper. Out of my .270, my groups would move 4 in at 100 yards with IMR 4350 at a 60 degree change; using the same ammo, loaded the same day, from the same bench, the only change was the temp. I did this test over a 3 month span from 20 degrees to 80 degrees.

    I prefer H4350. On Thursday, my buddy and I went to the range to try out a new load for my .270 and his 30-06; I used Barnes' 130 gr TTSX and he used Barnes' 150 gr TTSX with H4350. It work very well with his rifle. I have never gotten groups like I did with this combination. I got just over an inch at 300 yards. I was sold on the H4350 with 130 gr Hornady SSTs, but now I have a new load.
     
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    stoney1666,

    Well, if you want one powder for both, 4350 burn rate powders are too slow for the .308. Suitable powders are IMR4895, H4895, IMR4064, Varget, and my personal favourite, RL15. However, if you want optimal performance out of your .30-06, you will get a separate, slower burning powder for it.

    Don
     
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    Imr 4064 in your .308. Imr 4064 in your 30-06 with bullets under 150 or 165 gr depending on your rifle. Imr 4350 for the heavier bullets in your 06.Pretty hard to beat this old recipe but it can be done.Thats why we reload.
     
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    I'd have to agree with the majority... A pount each of IMR4895, IMR4064, Varget, and BLC(2) and a box of Sierra Match 150's, 168's, 175's and 190's and you can escape into the world of load development.
     
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