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What do you think is the most underrated handgun/rifle cartridges?

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  1. daniel craig

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    Being that it’s straight walled I imagine it’s decently easy to reload too
     
  2. WisBorn

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    I agree with you that the 41 mag should have a much larger following!
     
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  3. Coop45

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    Elmer Keith didn't get the word out.
     
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    32 H&R magnum
    .22 Hornet
    Both fairly mainstream but not so overly popular.
     
  5. Trashyshoots

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    357 when fired out of a rifle.
    358 Winchester
    9x25 dillon
     
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  6. black mamba

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    Handgun = .41 magnum . . . . Rifle = .35 Whelen
    Both of these cartridges exhibit ballistics far beyond their popularity, and in a very similar way. The .41 mag will do absolutely anything that the vastly more popular .44 mag will do, and with considerably less recoil. The same with the .35 Whelen as compared with the "standard" medium bore, the .375 H&H magnum. Killing power and trajectory are practically indistinguishable, and the Whelen does it with 30% less powder and 40% less recoil.
     
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    41 mag is great, but it can not shoot the heavier bullets. But there is some overlap at the high end of 41 mag capabilities and the lower/medium power 44 mag loads.
     
  8. bikerdoc

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    Pistol round = 9mm makarov

    Rifle round = 30 cal carbine.
    Personal experience. In the Nam I was a medic the 1911 was great, but if I needed more I had a M2 Carbine I got from the Arvn. Great for hard hitting suppressive fire, and one shot stops. Couple of NVA learned that the hard way.
    The MAk was a Pick up and easy to carry. While not a 45 it was effective. Still have one today.
    Just my ..02 YMMV
     
  9. 12Bravo20

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    A lot of people don't realize how many M1 and M2 carbines were used in Vietnam.
     
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  10. Armored farmer

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    Pistol = .22mag
    Rifle = .22mag
     
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  11. Buzznrose

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    Funny how back in the 70’s and 80’s, at least in my circles with n Montana, these and the .270 were go to rounds for folks who wanted something besides an ‘06
     
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  12. bikerdoc

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    Both current favorites of mine!
     
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  13. Armored farmer

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    Years ago, I couldn't wait to be able to afford my own centerfire handguns and rifles. Now I get a kick out of shooting the suped-up .22s again.
     
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  14. mjsdwash

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    7mm08. This round is about perfect for 99% of game, and target, fun, and teaching out there. But its not a common rifle to find, especially in lightweight AR-10 barrels, the reason I don't have one. The 6.5 Sweedmoor will probably be its death. Pistol, 25ACP. For the most part, the psychology of being shot is about equal in all cases. Most pistols have no real stopping force anyway. Sure there are pistols almost as small as a baby browning, but key word is almost. They also kick 20 times harder, and are much louder. They're almost all plastic as well. Its a reasonably accurate round, and in something like a Ruger MK or other fullsize it would allow for a great, handloadable pistol target round. Just my thought.
     
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  15. WisBorn

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    I have never owned a 22mag. Am I missing something?
     
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    32 pistol calibers - H&R and Federal Magnum.

    38 Special

    44 Special.

    22 Hornet

    30 Carbine

    All of these especially if you handload.
     
  17. Armored farmer

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    The best way to discover the attraction to. 22magnum is the Ruger Single Six, imho. It was my introduction, and is arguably one of the best .22lr/.22magnum guns ever made.
    I wouldn't say that the ..22mag fills a big void, but it does take .22 rimfire to another level.
     
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  18. Anchorite

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    Haven’t seen anyone mention the 357 Max.
     
  19. brewer12345

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    Agree with 9 Mak in handgun.

    35 Rem in rifle. Within 150 yards it has excellent knockdown power, very good accuracy, and modest recoil.
     
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    5.7 is very effective for pest control. FN's firearms are a little pricey, but I'm willing to bet it's going to get popular, with ranchers, now that Ruger has an affordable pistol.
     
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  21. LeonCarr

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    Most underrated handgun cartridge - 10mm

    Most underrated rifle cartridge - .264 Winchester Magnum

    Just my .02,
    LeonCarr
     
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  22. Llama Bob

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    For handgun cartridges, the world has settled on some fairly reasonable ones. The only one I would consider underrated is the 10mm, and in the last decade or so people have caught on so it may be "formerly underrated, now reasonably rated".

    For rifle, I can think of several:
    • 7mm WSM - if this didn't exist, we'd have to invent it. The 7mm is the single best bore diameter for general western ad plains game hunting. The short magnum cases are wonderful - accurate, easy to reload, and they fit in small handy guns. My little KImber 8400 weighs almost nothing and is super handy, but throws a bonded 175gr (with a SD of > .3 and a pretty good BC) at 2900 ft/s.
    • 325 WSM - very limited popularity, but kept alive by the simple fact that it's the best "crossover" long range/bear stopper magnum we've got, which is a handy thing to have in much of the western US and Alaska. A good bit faster than the .338WM with bullets of similar sectional density. The virtues of the short magnum cases apply here as well and in rough country not having to tote around a 26" long action is really nice.
    • 6mm Ackley (aka .244 Remington Ackley Improved) - the best coyote and general long range varmint cartridge ever created (possibly tied with the extremely similar 6mm-06 AI wildcat)
    • .50 Alaskan/.50-110/.50-100-405 - African stopping rifle level performance (500+gr at 2000+ft/s for both softs and solids) in a lever action. Basically as fast as a double for the first two shots, radically faster after that. Faster than a bolt action from shot two on. And available in guns that don't break the bank like decent doubles do. If they'd had the powders we do now when these came out, the landscape of African rifles would be totally different.
    • 6.5 WSM/Leopard/RSAUM/PRC - largely the same virtues as the 7mm short mags, but with the option of shooting the excellent 160gr Woodleigh protected point.
    • 26, 27, 28 30 and 33 Nosler: The best designed magnums for a long action, hands down. About as much case capacity as can reasonably be put to use - ditch the useless (in fact counterproductive) belt and get some extra umph! Fast twisting the 27 Nosler (along with Sig doing the same) is the start of a new era where the .277 bore isn't the retarded cousin of the 7mms any more.
     
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  23. Llama Bob

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    An excellent one that almost made my list, although I think the short action 6.5mm mags are even better (and arguably even more underrated).
     
  24. Llama Bob

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    I'll go for this one too - especially if a rimless version were truly standardized. With the right bullets the 9mm bore diameter benefits quite a bit from added velocity.
     
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  25. Texas10mm

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    Ammo more expensive than 9mm that creates a lot of noise in a handgun.
     
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